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    • #7182
      boo
      Participant

      What I write here are my honest views, and are not written with an intention to hurt ANYONE, in ANY WAY at all… if you have a problem with ANYTHING written here by ANYONE, please let me know…

      I don't need a God in my life… I have myself and my own strength, my own beliefs, 'laws' about life that I abide by… ones that let me sleep without feeling guilty… I don't want to be another sheep being herded by the sheepdog Religion… there are some things that mean a lot to me, and my own beliefs and thoughts are one of them. I don't see any reason why I should compromise on them because someone else decides that 'God' is our boss… it seems rather foolish to me to impose a view which is not based on any facts at all, onto others… I am my own 'God', although I don't see myself as a God of my own life… I am the one who decides the rights and wrongs in my life. I need neither a holy book nor a set of ideas about life thrust upon me by ANYONE… family, friends, well-wishers…

      And you know what? I love it. I love the freedom that comes with being an atheist. I love being able to see the world through my own eyes, and not a pair of lenses that have been given to me…

      Feedback people… Smile

    • #56824
      Am Rani
      Participant

      I agree with you Boo. I do believe there if some sort of power, but I'm not brought up with the faith in God…

      As I see how “limited” people who believe in God can think… Not all of them of course, but some always say “because” if you ask them questions about life, and everyhing that has to do with it.

      It's hard for me to believe in a God. When something really bad happens to me, I just can't say: It's Gods will, and than go on with my life. I sometime admire people who can, but it does not work for me.

      I don't want to say I'm an atheist, definately not, but most of the time, I don't really feel a need to have any religion in my life. Most of the time I think as human beings, we have enough brains en sensibilaty, to see what's right and wrong.

      Example: My best friend used to have a boyfriend, years ago. We were pretty young, but she really love him at that moment, so she decide to sleep with him. After a long time, the relationship ended..

      In most religions, she's “damned”. if she wants to become christian (she's an atheist as well),she should feel sorry for what she did, and she should suffer from that for th rest of her life and beyond.

      But at the moment she really loved that boy, she only loved him, and the relationship felt right. Who is God than to say she did something wrong?? It's up to her to decide if she has to feel sorry about it or not. She has to face herself, and if she's ok with herself, than it's fine.

      I hope you get my point a bit…

    • #56825
      boo
      Participant
      Am Rani:

      Example: My best friend used to have a boyfriend, years ago. We were pretty young, but she really love him at that moment, so she decide to sleep with him. After a long time, the relationship ended..

      In most religions, she's “damned”. if she wants to become christian (she's an atheist as well),she should feel sorry for what she did, and she should suffer from that for th rest of her life and beyond.

      But at the moment she really loved that boy, she only loved him, and the relationship felt right. Who is God than to say she did something wrong?? It's up to her to decide if she has to feel sorry about it or not. She has to face herself, and if she's ok with herself, than it's fine.

      wow… you have said something which I did not post up in this thread… I am going to post it now… let me know what you think about it…

    • #56826
      boo
      Participant

      But there is no actual proof of God… and when people say that God is in their hearts, I simply cannot argue with that. Because feelings are crazy, illogical… they need neither rhyme nor reason to just… be. And if they want to keep ‘God’ in them, then they can do so… but what irks me is RELIGION. The idea of RELIGION itself… the idea that some individuals can create rules for other people to follow, and the ‘society’ following them. I don’t see anything ‘true’ (for want of a better word? ‘Pure’? I don’t know… I hope you get what I mean…) in that…Examples? The simple, pointless things… the ones that have nothing to do with ‘God’, but are simply the s h i t of society that people are expected to carry around with them… the idea of no s e x before marriage, for instance… . These have NOTHING whatsoever to do with having someone out there to look for for guidance and support (this being ‘God’, of course). THIS is what I am against.

    • #56827
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      I also want to react to this thread, because I am religious… In my point of view I'm not limitated because I believe in God… And I do not also follow someone or something like a blind sheep… In church the societies sometimes control each other too much.. It's the same in my church, and I really don't believe in that… I believe in God, I respect what's in the Bible and it's a Guide for me throught life, but believing in God does not depands on the fact if you're wearing a skirt or a hat or whatever… It depands on what you feel in your heart and what you do…

      I feel Gods love in my heart, eventhough something really bad happens… All the bad things came into this world because of us, the human beings, and God is watching over us.. That doesn't mean we can't get sick or die, but it means we have a Friend who stands by us no matter what… And he has a plan with us.. When God sometimes closes a door, He opens a window… I can believe in that, and it helps me through the rough times…

      Once, when I was doubting my relationship, because I thought I was in love with someone else too, I asked God to show me the way and to show me for which guy I had to choose… Through different signs he showed me that I should stay together with my b/f and to really go for him, and not for the other person… Or when my b/f is away and I feel really sad, I pray to God if He can stand by me and make me feel better, and after a while I feel some peace coming over me and I'm feeling better… I do also believe God uses people for that… When I feel sad I can also come to a friend like Am Rani… I believe God has given me her and my other friends to get through the rough times on earth and to bring joy in my life… It's His way to make me happy…

      And the guidelines, told in the ten demands, are just to guide you through this world and to make the world better, not to restrict you in life…

      And about se.x before marriage… I really doubt about the fact if you can or can't do that… It says nowhere in the Bible that you can't, but also nowhere that you can (it only says you can be hoo.ker or something, but I think that's normal)… My b/f is very religious so he doesn't want to have se.x before marriage, but he says you can se.xually almost do everything, exept for IT before you get married… I don't think that's true… You can do OR nothing OR everything…

      As you can see, I'm religious, but not traditional religious… I believe in God and I will follow Him wherever He may go (like they sing in Sister Act Wink), but I don't believe all the restrictions the church puts on religion… I think that's also a reason people do not go to church or believe in God… I mean, how can you believe in a loving God when you can't do anything in life?

    • #56828
      serioComic
      Participant

      deep discussion this is. treat it cautiously u must. different thinking everyone is. to each its own i say.

      seek the truth u shall. find the answers u will.

    • #56829
      boo
      Participant
      serioComic:

      deep discussion this is. treat it cautiously u must. different thinking everyone is. to each its own i say.

      seek the truth u shall. find the answers u will.

      i don't think it is possible to find the answers to questions as big as these…

      to each its own i say. – why of course… but there is nothing wrong with healthy discussion, is there? (healthy? jeezums i sound 90!!)

      i doubt anything people say here will make other people change their minds… people will always think they're right and the other is wrong… lol

      this is just argument for argument's sake… so we can see new ideas and grow with them… Smile

    • #56830
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      It's not about right or wrong. It's about what we believe and why. It's not as if we're trying to convince one another, we're just talking about it… It's great, if I may say so! Smile Am Rani and I did this a lot when we were in the same class at school. We had a book where we were writing in about serious stuff. It's just cool to do this from time to time, and it makes you think about what is important for you and what you believe in. You learn more about yourself, and you can learn a lot from each other… That's great, isn't it? Smile

    • #56831
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      And Serio, sometimes there are no answers to find… It's just that talking about serious stuff with other people will make you think more and let you look deep in your soul… You'll find yourself, but no answers…

    • #56832
      boo
      Participant
      Shakalaka Baby:

      And Serio, sometimes there are no answers to find… It's just that talking about serious stuff with other people will make you think more and let you look deep in your soul… You'll find yourself, but no answers…

      wah wah wah… kya baat hai… Wink

    • #56833
      vchenoah
      Participant

      Healthy discussion is good for the mind.

      Just be cautious with phraseology. It isn't wise calling someone who believes in God or a god a 'fool' and vice versa.

    • #56834
      Maizara
      Participant
      vchenoah:

      Healthy discussion is good for the mind.

      Just be cautious with phraseology. It isn't wise calling someone who believes in God or a god a 'fool' and vice versa.

      Exactly my thought.. If healthy, ppl shouldn't be called or classified as 'fool' or 'sheep'.

    • #56835
      boo
      Participant
      vchenoah:

      Healthy discussion is good for the mind.

      Just be cautious with phraseology. It isn't wise calling someone who believes in God or a god a 'fool' and vice versa.

      Point noted. But as i said, these are my honest opinions…

    • #56836
      boo
      Participant

      Maizara: first of all, welcome to the forum!

      It is not my fault I see people who do such things as sheep… not EVERYONE who is religious is a 'sheep', perhaps I wasn't too clear on that (and I apologise) but those who blindly do so without questioning seem like sheep to me.

      And as for the fool, since it seems to be causing such hassles, i shall go and rephrase what i said… what i said made sense to me, and it was wrong of me to assume it would make sense to everyone else, too…

      these are simply my honest, blunt, bare thoughts… but i will edit if it causes too much fuss.

      Smile

    • #56837
      boo
      Participant

      there… edited… a lot more concise and still honest…

    • #56838
      vchenoah
      Participant
      boo:

      And as for the fool, since it seems to be causing such hassles, i shall go and rephrase what i said… what i said made sense to me, and it was wrong of me to assume it would make sense to everyone else, too…

      these are simply my honest, blunt, bare thoughts… but i will edit if it causes too much fuss.

      Smile

      No hassle Boo…was just as observation.

      I personally don't think you meant it the way it sounded, but it could be misinterpreted.

      You've been on this forum long enough to know that an opinion is an opinion. You are also quick to come to the point of a matter should you not understand. So please, don't find offense where none was intended.

      For the record, I'm quite enjoying the posts here…

    • #56839
      boo
      Participant

      me too. i really am… will we be hearing any of your thoughts on this thread Ma'am?

    • #56840
      vchenoah
      Participant

      I'm gonna have to answer no for this one Boo! Smile

      I will say this though, it's really good to see you peeking out of ur shell for a change! Keep roaring!

    • #56841
      boo
      Participant
      Scar face:

      Firstly Boo, admitting u are an atheist, takes courage and is admirable

      I never openly admitted to being an Atheist – this would have been a total disaster hehehehe…

      Well um… don't know what to make of this sentence! lol… depends which way you are seeing it, i guess. for some, it will be a 'brave' thing to do, for others it is as simple as admitting to any other religion… for me it was the latter… so i never felt that what i was doing required courage, or was an admirable thing to do… it was what i WANTED to do, and i was 'never' forced otherwise, therefore… in my eyes, i don't agree that it takes courage or is admirable… Smile

      Haha… I can somewhat relate to this sentence… really… only my immediate family know about my atheist beliefs… everyone else seems to think I am still a Whatever-My-Religion-Is Stick out tongue… although i guess maybe deep down somewhere, they know that i am an atheist, they just want to forget that fact… and one member of my family (whom I love DEARLY) is still trying to get me to pray… sigh…

    • #56842
      Khushi
      Participant

      Boo I recommend you read this book How To Know God By Deepak Chopra, very interesting read.

      Lol, it reminded me of you when I found it on my shelf. The tag reads ” The Soul's Journey Into The Mystery Of Mysteries”

    • #56843
      boo
      Participant

      awww…. sweet yaar…

      you know, I haven't heard of this book… needless to say, I will check it out… Smile

    • #56844
      Khushi
      Participant

      Im sure you'll like it – Id love to discuss it with you sometime after you've read it.

    • #56845
      serioComic
      Participant

      more often than not, religion and eventually GOD has always been the first to be blamed for everything and anything. the moment something doesnt go our way, we blame religion. the moment we are put thru a test that we feel we dont deserve, we blame GOD. things like 'if GOD exist, then HE wouldnt do this to me', 'if GOD loves me HE shouldnt do this to me' are commonly said. why? why do we always put the blame on GOD and religion when things doesnt go our way? we are quick to point fingers at GOD when something bad happens but do we thank HIM enough for the food that is on our table everyday? for the house that we are staying? for the air that we are breathing??? for the job that we have?? for the family that we have??

      why do we say that theres soo many rules and condition to religion and somehow it restricts our freedom, our views on things, etc? why is it that u can follow human rules without questioning it so much but when it comes to GOD rules u question forever and ever? if u have to come in to school/uni/work at 8am, u will do that. u dont say 'aahh..these people are restricting my freedom. they dont understand me. im like a sheep being herd and all that nonsense'. u just follow it, day in day out. but when it comes to GOD rules, u say that. why is that?

      my conclusion is….we want to follow religion and believe in GOD only when things are going our way. The moment things dont go our way, we blame religion and GOD and say that the rules are stupid and doesnt make sense and we eventually lose faith in GOD and that is when people stop believing that GOD exist. we have this thinking that the religion should fit our lifestyle and not the other way round. but it doesnt work that way. religion doesnt change for anyone. u have to change yourself to fit the religion. if u cant accept it, then dont blame the religion and say its rules are stupid and doesnt make sense, etc. accept the fact that U cant change to fit the religion.

      religion is a guide on how to lead yr life. if u find it restrictive to yr freedom, yr lifestyle, etc then by all means stop practicing it. thats entirely yr decision. but stop blaming religion when u have lost faith in it or when things dont go yr way.

    • #56846
      Maizara
      Participant

      Boo, thanks for the welcome. Smile It is no fuss or hassle.
      Only that, honest opinions do not mean to use 'inappropriate' words that may be perceived as quite 'impolite'.
      But glad to see you've edited it to avoid any misinterpretation. Smile

      I have to agree with whatever seriocomic says.

    • #56847
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Am Rani:
      As I see how “limited” people who believe in God can think… Not all of them of course, but some always say “because” if you ask them questions about life, and everyhing that has to do with it.

      I highly dissagree. When I ask an athiest why he/she doesn't believe in God, they always say, “Because there is no proof of God.” What kind of answer is that? Of course there is proof.

      Am Rani:
      It's hard for me to believe in a God. When something really bad happens to me, I just can't say: It's Gods will, and than go on with my life. I sometime admire people who can, but it does not work for me.

      I understand that it may be diffcult for you, but read serio's second post. Smile

      Am Rani:
      I don't want to say I'm an atheist, definately not, but most of the time, I don't really feel a need to have any religion in my life. Most of the time I think as human beings, we have enough brains en sensibilaty, to see what's right and wrong.

      It all comes down to who gave you that brain.

      Am Rani:
      Example: My best friend used to have a boyfriend, years ago. We were pretty young, but she really love him at that moment, so she decide to sleep with him. After a long time, the relationship ended..

      In most religions, she's “damned”. if she wants to become christian (she's an atheist as well),she should feel sorry for what she did, and she should suffer from that for th rest of her life and beyond.

      But at the moment she really loved that boy, she only loved him, and the relationship felt right. Who is God than to say she did something wrong?? It's up to her to decide if she has to feel sorry about it or not. She has to face herself, and if she's ok with herself, than it's fine.. Who is God to say she did something wrong? God, of course. Smile

      Why does it always come down to s.e.x? Why do people want to have s.e.x so badly before they are married? What if your relationship doesn't work out? Then you go and find another guy, and sleep with him as well…Then, if that doesn't work out either, you find another guy, and if that doesn't work out either, NEXT! I mean, Come on! Imagine how many people you sleep with! It's completely disgusting if you ask me. But if you're okay with that, then hey, it doesn't make a difference to me. But think about AIDS…

      boo:
      The simple, pointless things… the ones that have nothing to do with ‘God’, but are simply the s h i t of society that people are expected to carry around with them… the idea of no s e x before marriage, for instance… . These have NOTHING whatsoever to do with having someone out there to look for for guidance and support (this being ‘God’, of course). THIS is what I am against.

      These are not stupid or pointless hunny, and they have everything to do with God looking out for you. s.e.x before marriage may cause AIDS, and it has. Wearing a burkha protects a woman's beauty. If a guy wanted to rape a woman and he saw two woman all alone(w/e), an

    • #56848
      boo
      Participant

      Would you believe me if I said I understand where you’re coming from Oreo ji… I really do. I was the same when making the transition from religion to atheism, I blamed God for all the bad happenings in the world. Now I realise what a stupid argument that is… there is more to my atheism than just ‘Why would God do this to us?’ But there are some points I must stress…

      As an atheist, i.e. NOW (if you remember, I used to have a religion – two in fact), I don’t blame God for everything that goes wrong. I blame it on human folly, and circumstances instead Big Smile no, jokes aside, I don’t blame religion or God. Because neither exist in my eyes, although when people say that God metaphorically exists in their hearts, I have no words to say back to them. Because there is one argument I can never argue against, what’s in your heart is in your heart, and no amount of rational thinking can take it out of your heart.

      I don’t have double standards as an atheist… I still find that everything else is life is also restricting. But don’t you think religion and things such as getting to school/uni/work for a certain time are different things? (trust me, I have questioned these things too!) while religion is telling you how to BEHAVE, and no doubt society will do that too, to a certain extent, these things as taxes, timings, etc. are a system to keep the momentum going.

      Imagine if people DIDN’T arrive to work on time… the reason why they ask you to come in at a certain time is so that it will allow everything else to run smoothly, i.e. for practical reasons. And I can find the reason behind that, the logic in that.

      But religion? What reason does religion have to hide behind, for setting the rules that it does?

      I still stick to my sheep theory (lol… I have a feeling this will need to be edited too… sigh…), because I feel we are following religion blindly. We don’t pause for a moment to consider that things could be different, and the different aspect of things is not so bad, in all honesty. When people ask why we are doing some things, religion-related, we say because that is what my religion says I must and must not do. And that reason irks me so much.

      Whereas if we are asked why we, like sheep, follow the monotonous routine of life, we have specific reasons for it. Reasons that can be justified and make at least a little bit of sense.

      And note: when I say ‘we’, I am ge

    • #56849
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      boo:
      I still stick to my sheep theory (lol… I have a feeling this will need to be edited too… sigh…), because I feel we are following religion blindly. We don’t pause for a moment to consider that things could be different, and the different aspect of things is not so bad, in all honesty. When people ask why we are doing some things, religion-related, we say because that is what my religion says I must and must not do. And that reason irks me so much.

      If you ask me, you also have a religion, Boo. It's called Atheism, and to be an athiest, you must not believe in God. The rules that this religion has is that you get to make up your own rules. Do what you think is right and be ur own kind of God. Don't athiests follow their religion blindly? Do they “pause for a moment to consider that things could be different, and the different aspect of things is not so bad, in all honesty”? I understand that most athiests are usually born with a religion and when they decide they don't like religion, they become athiest, which, in my opinion, is also a religion. But you have to understand, not everyone who has a religion follow it blindly, thousands of people ask questions, that's why we have scholars. I ask so many questions too! I ask so that I can learn, and i do learn, and i also understand it as well. So I do not think I am following my religion blindly at all. My friend is also an athiest, one day I asked her why she doesn't believe in God. Know what she said? She said, “Because I am athiest.” Isn't that just like what you said? Instead of saying it is part of my religion, she said i'm athiest. In my opinion, atheism is a religion, Boo.

      boo:

      And as an atheist, the moment things don’t go my way, I don’t blame religion. Some things in life I do blame religion (not in my life, just general happenings in life) for, but when it comes to my life… as I said, I am the boss. I blame myself for doing things ‘wrong’, whatever they may be. Or I accept that the situation has put me in this position and try my best to rectify it. You blame yourself because you are the boss, in other words, God, of your life. So ur still blaming your religion, which is atheism. Don't you see? As an atheist, that is what you are supposed to do, and that is what you do! It's just like a religion…

    • #56850
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      Serio… these are the first great and true words I've ever seen around here from you… I'm surprised!! Stick out tongue I couldn't agree with you more Serio, you're SO right!! Smile People like to blame someone for everything that goes wrong in this world, and so they blame God and religion, which isn't the right way to go in my opinion…

    • #56851
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant
      boo:

      I don’t have double standards, is all I wanted to say. “you have to change yourself to fit religion” – what? Compromise on who you are, what you want to be, because religion asks you to do so? Needless to say, I completely disagree.

      You don't HAVE to change yourself to fit in religion… When you choose to follow a religion – if it's Buddism, Christianity or the Islam – you do that because you believe in the things that religion stands for… You're not compromising on yourself because of your christianity or what religion you believe in… You choose for a religion because you feel comfortable in it and because it's the way you WANT to live…

      I mean… I don't mind to go to church, I go because I want to… I don't mind to do nothing on Sunday, because I even don't want to (and it's just really relaxing too!! one day in the week you're really doing nothing, that's so relaxing!! Smile) and so on… You're just adjusting you're life because you feel that's the right way to go… And I don't mean adjusting because of what everyone says/the vicar or imam says, I mean adjusting to what you feel your religion tells you to do… And things you don't believe in, you automatically don't follow/do… Religion is not some regime, it's a way of life… And it's a way you CHOOSE to live…

    • #56852
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Shakalaka Baby:
      boo:

      I don’t have double standards, is all I wanted to say. “you have to change yourself to fit religion” – what? Compromise on who you are, what you want to be, because religion asks you to do so? Needless to say, I completely disagree.

      Religion is not some regime, it's a way of life… And it's a way you CHOOSE to live…

      I agree!

    • #56853
      boo
      Participant
      Maizara:
      Boo, thanks for the welcome. Smile It is no fuss or hassle.
      Only that, honest opinions do not mean to use 'inappropriate' words that may be perceived as quite 'impolite'.
      But glad to see you've edited it to avoid any misinterpretation. Smile

      I have to agree with whatever seriocomic says.

      Honest opinions have no intention whatsoever of hurting or being insensitive towards ANY individual, but are thoughts that are stripped of any layers, and deal with the issue, stark naked.

      Whether it is done so using 'inappropriate' words that may be perceived as 'impolite' or not is not the issue in my opinion.

      Some honest thoughts may offend other people, or to use your words may seem 'impolite' to other people, but if that's the nature of those thoughts, then that's the nature of those thoughts… Smile

    • #56854
      boo
      Participant

      Maizara:

      Exactly my thought.. If healthy, ppl shouldn't be called or classified as 'fool' or 'sheep'.

      To ALL (not just Maizara, whom I've quoted lol):

      I am not directing my usage of the word 'sheep' towards ANY individual at all, I am not classifying (accusing, even? If that was how it may have sounded to anyone… that is NOT my intention at all!)… rather I was using that word metaphorically, to show a way of lifestyle. The way a religious way of life is, to me reminded me of sheep in a field (Silence of the Lambs anyone? lol).

      Had I written it at a different time, it could well have been anything else – like the machines in a factory, or… or… goodness knows! Anything. Please don't feel offended by that. It was not meant to offend but to show how I perceived religion… like a little cartoon using words…

      The last thing I want to do is to be cruel to, or point fingers at, ANYONE religious. I do not for a moment mean to treat condescendingly anyone who is religious, because that is a very nasty thing to do. To see someone as 'lower' for any reason, let alone regarding their religious beliefs. If that is how my words seem to any of you, I am truly sorry. Let me know what it is I have said and I may change my wording.

      Of course, that is not to say every religious practice is like a sheep being shepherded around. If the people WANT TO do what their religion is asking them to do, then that is fair enough. That is their choice entirely, and though I don't agree with it, I can respect it. But it is when they do so without any thought, those moments when they simply accept that this is what they are going to do, because their religion says so… that is what irks me most about religion. That it kills that spirit to question. To see things with an open mind, and understand that there may be another viewpoint, too.

      If at the end of the day, you are choosing to do what you are doing because you yourself have used your own logic and instincts, then fair enough. That is what I did. And there was no logic behind religion for me, and my instincts disagreed with it. So I lef

    • #56855
      Khushi
      Participant

      See I think the notion of religion being a debatable issue which somewhat 'clashes' with atheism when It says “thou shalt not” in its literal form i.e. the Bible etc. I mean, religion is dedication. Dedication is only dedication when carried out with passion, will, belief in/on it. But I think the way its preached is causing the problems in the way it is perceived by society, especially the modern world where technology has overpowered our vision. What I mean by dedication… for example, If an artist is not appreciated by society and people, told that he is useless. Does that mean he should stop following his passion? Can religion not be a passion? Passion is free, but it has rules which are personalised. Why cant rules in religion be personalized, but yet not abuse the very existence of religion? I mean, I am a Hindu but I dont believe in neither the 'cast' system, nor the 'untouchables' and (…this one might make the boys cringe, but i really disagree with it) not being able to go to temple just because women go through menstruation and so arent 'clean'. This are issues created by authoritative figures which have nothing to do with religion. I think most of these sort of rules preach prejudice. Which religion says love is wrong? NONE. Which religion says loving someone who is of a different religion/race or even nationality/breed is wrong? MOST. Why? Which case is religion standing for here? Love or Division? God definitely never in any form denied humans to loving someone of a different existence what so ever. If he’s created people of a different colour, faith or “background” and has also created free love, then whats the problem? Again the preaching.

      Religion and God for me are two different things. I have 100% faith in God. Why, you might ask. Because I cannot ignore the fact that the sun rises every morning and sets every evening. A child is born everyday, a life is created every day and a life leaves everyday. How can such HUGE issues are stated as ‘by chance’ by some people, I don’t know. Again, as boo said this is an open discussion not aimed to hurt anyone. Religion is the WAY a GROUP of people wish to contact God. Some people do it via meditation. Group prayers are thought by some as powerful and moving, to themselves. But neither has superior than each other. Therefore, no religion is superior either. You can connect with God in which ever way possible.

      I see and feel God in nature. And in its beauty I see his vision and his love. [the usual usage of most religions to see God as a ‘he’ is something much easier to say in English. By no means do I think God has a gender. He/She/ Divine is fine with me]

      Yes things go wrong, yes people die, yes innocent lives are lost – but who are you to judge that all of this has no meaning? On what basis can you blame God for this when your vision is only in the span of about 80 yrs average? A lifetime is not enough to see the graph of ‘Life’. That is why time is inconquerable. We are

    • #56856
      boo
      Participant

      Your words come straight from the heart Khushi… it's impossible not to be pulled in by them… 🙂

    • #56857
      Am Rani
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:
      Am Rani:
      Example: My best friend used to have a boyfriend, years ago. We were pretty young, but she really love him at that moment, so she decide to sleep with him. After a long time, the relationship ended..

      In most religions, she's “damned”. if she wants to become christian (she's an atheist as well),she should feel sorry for what she did, and she should suffer from that for th rest of her life and beyond.

      But at the moment she really loved that boy, she only loved him, and the relationship felt right. Who is God than to say she did something wrong?? It's up to her to decide if she has to feel sorry about it or not. She has to face herself, and if she's ok with herself, than it's fine..

      Who is God to say she did something wrong? God, of course. Smile

      Why does it always come down to s.e.x? Why do people want to have s.e.x so badly before they are married? What if your relationship doesn't work out? Then you go and find another guy, and sleep with him as well…Then, if that doesn't work out either, you find another guy, and if that doesn't work out either, NEXT! I mean, Come on! Imagine how many people you sleep with! It's completely disgusting if you ask me. But if you're okay with that, then hey, it doesn't make a difference to me. But think about AIDS…

      Rani, I did not mean you should just sleep around with everyone, hop from one bed to another!! Of course not!! What do you take me for???? I was talking about serious relationships, not that one should sleep with every boy she talks 2!! If you are with a guy, and you feel he's the one for you, and he feels like you are the one for him, and you realy love eachother, I don't think s.e.x is a bad thing. If, after years, the relationship turns out to be not right, in my opinion, you don't have to feel sorry about the s.e.x. At the moment you were together, if felt like it would be forever. When you get married, it's not garanteed either that you wil stay together for always, right?? (But that depends on culture, I know how Afghans think about divorce). If you meet another guy later, and with him, it feels like it will be for life as well, why not have s.e.x? As you love him at the moment it happens, I don't think it's bad, and I don't think you have to feel sorry about it.

      And again, I don't agree with sleeping with a guy which you met in a bar or something, just for one night. I'm really talking about serious relationships, when you fall in love with someone, you shoudl wait some time, to see which way the relationship is going. I don't mean you should sleep with a guy, just because he seems nice.. Please don't think I'm the kind of girl who sleeps around, because I'm not…

      And about aids…Think about condoms…

    • #56858
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Am Rani ji- I know you didn't mean people should sleep around with everyone, but in general, many people do that. I don't know, maybe you think it's okay to do that before marriage, but I truly don't think it is okay. Even if you both truly love each other. And if you do love each other so much, why hop into bed? why no wait till u get married? Unless you don't want to get married…but if u love someone so much, won't u wan't to spend ur life wiht him/her? ah I dunnoe, people have different views on that.

      Afghan, or not, divorce is something I hope never happens to me or anyone else. People take it so lightly, one little fight and the girl decides to leave or the husband kicks her out. I know it doesn't happen a lot…but i dunnoe, maybe it's just in America that people get divorced every minute! Marriage is a lifetime commitment, don't ruin it by divorce. And I love my Afghani culture for not taking divorce lightly. Smile You should only get a divorce if you absolutley and truly need it.

      condoms, hunny? I hope you know that those things don't always work…

    • #56859
      boo
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      condoms, hunny? I hope you know that those things don't always work…

      *snort* This cracked me up… boyyyy I wish I could have seen Am Rani ji's face when she reads this… sigh…

      Big Smile

    • #56860
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      lmao! Anything would crack u up ji!

      and ohmy! “I wish I could have seen Am Rani ji's face when she reads this…”

      Shouldn't it be, “I wish i could see Am Rani ji's face when she reads this”?

      *angelic smile*

    • #56861
      Am Rani
      Participant
      boo:
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      condoms, hunny? I hope you know that those things don't always work…

      *snort* This cracked me up… boyyyy I wish I could have seen Am Rani ji's face when she reads this… sigh…

      Big Smile

      Hahaha, you should have seen a smile on it… I know you didn't mean to be funny, Raniji, but it sounded SO sweet Wink And a bit funny, to be honest, haha.(Really, I'm not laughing at you)

      And yes, I do know about condoms. I grew up in the Netherlands, where having s.e.x before marriage is completely accepted (so is living together without being married, having children withour being married, and two men/women getting married), so I'm very aware of the risk s.e.x might bring, and how to protect myself. But, as I said, I'm not someone who sleeps around. I don't believe in s.e.x. without love, and as you know I have no boyfriend… Wink

    • #56862
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant
      Am Rani:

      I grew up in the Netherlands, where having s.e.x before marriage is completely accepted (so is living together without being married, having children withour being married, and two men/women getting married)

      Hey Am Rani ji, you made us Dutchies sound like we don't have any sense of standards… I know you don't mean it that way, but since the Netherlands is well known in the world as a country where everything is possible already, you shouldn't encourage it Wink Maybe Rani and Boo will think we smoke marihuana and stuff too now (when I wrote this I was thinking: Do you actually smoke marihuana? Hahaha, you see, I'm not a true Dutchie.. lol Stick out tongue)… Wink

    • #56863
      serioComic
      Participant

      we have choices. some people like to stand in the rain without an umbrella. thats what it means to live free

    • #56864
      Khushi
      Participant

      A man with very few words!

    • #56865
      serioComic
      Participant

      a woman with equally short reply

    • #56866
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      And about aids…Think about condoms… …

      Condoms, , omw hon, u knw it just occurred to me that I actually DON’T have a clue on HOW to use one hehehehe, honestly, I never really thought it mattered much until u mentioned this !!!

      With sex crimes at its peak, guess I should advise my fwends as well to become more errrrr “learned” in this” field”….a mini project sorta thing, anyways, thanks for bringing it up hey….

      Am Rani ji- I know you didn't mean people should sleep around with everyone, but in general, many people do that. I don't know, maybe you think it's okay to do that before marriage, but I truly don't think it is okay. Even if you both truly love each other. And if you do love each other so much, why hop into bed? Y indeed !!!! why no wait till u get married? Because we r humans, and have sexual needs/cravings and sometimes we don’t have enough willpower to sustain this craving until marriage. Just a way of life for many many people…. Unless you don't want to get married…but if u love someone so much, won't u wan't to spend ur life wiht him/her? Yep!! ah I dunnoe, people have different views on that !!!

      Afghan, or not, divorce is something I hope never happens to me or anyone else. People take it so lightly, one little fight and the girl decides to leave or the husband kicks her out. I know it doesn't happen a lot…..its does, DIVORCE is like the in thing at the moment. but i dunnoe, maybe it's just in America that people get divorced every minute! Wrong again, it’s the norm everywhere ….Marriage is a lifetime commitment, don't ruin it by divorce…. Hugs to you for saying what I feel 😉 And I love my Afghani culture for not taking divorce lightly. You should only get a divorce if you absolutley and truly need it. … Agree again!!!

      condoms, hunny? I hope you know that those things don't always work… IT doesn’t??? Damn!!!

      And off coz save the best for last:

      we have choices. some people like to stand in the rain without an umbrella. th

    • #56867
      boo
      Participant
      Scar face:

      1. why no wait till u get married? Because we r humans, and have sexual needs/cravings and sometimes we don’t have enough willpower to sustain this craving until marriage. Just a way of life for many many people….

      2. we have choices. some people like to stand in the rain without an umbrella. that’s what it means to live free

      LMAO, CANT STOP LAFFIN AT THIS…..am jus going to shut up an NOT pass a comment on this one; with all the willpower I have ….but still Lmao……. Now every time it rains, it will bring me back to this statement.

      1. you know, i agree with you scar face… Smile all i have to say on this is a quote i once read:

      Some people see things and ask, “Why?”. I see things and ask, “Why not?”

      Why is the most natural expression of love considered 'wrong' until after marriage?

      2. I LOVE the rain… Big Smile and i hate umberellas… you do the math lol… i found oreo ji's statement intriguing…

      I don't get what oreo ji is trying to say hmmm… if he's trying to say anything at all…

    • #56868
      Khushi
      Participant
      boo:

      Why is the most natural expression of love considered 'wrong' until after marriage?

      Well Boo, I see two very different but yet the same issues emerging here. If you love someone- you mean you love the person that they are. I think that is what most people would state first. Here there are no 'boundries' of any sort. You can love them, even if there are restrictions. BUT, when we talk about expressing love- this i think is a totally different issue. Love is passionate to some, and to an extent it has to be. But Love is content in knowing that there IS love- is something I believe in. Ok we're humans, and yes we have desires but is love so helpless that it gives in into the intense feelings which we experience? I mean im just wondering and questioning here. Yes its a part of life, but i think love rises above these needs. Its more of a need for the individual. They want to be loved and want to give love. Its how they want to direct it, is an issue. As an individual I dont see anything wrong in expressing your love. But the point where I disagree is that to express that 'special' feeling once and then express it again to a different person and say that it holds equal value. You can't test love in terms of physical attraction. If youre intensely attracted to someone physically, can u state that as love?

      Then again, everyone has a different take on the topic of love. So all are welcome to disagree with my view. Smile

    • #56869
      boo
      Participant

      Khushi ji…

      I agree with you for the first part… when you love someone, you love them for the person that they are… I think. I am at a loss for explanations as to why I love people… I really am… take this conversation I had with someone recently…

      Me: *hugging her*

      Person 1: Why do you love her so much?

      Me: *sigh* Don't ask me that…

      Person 1 (to her, whom I'm hugging): This is true love… be thankful you have her (me) in your life…

      Me: *hears what he says and carries on hugging her*

      Maybe when you love someone, you are loving the person they are subconsciously… but Love itself? I don't know… I don't have any explanations for it… just feelings, raw and from the heart.

      Love is never helpless. And about Love being content in knowing that there is Love… that varies from person to person na? Example: some people constantly feel the need to show and express love (the 'touchy-feely' types, if you want Stick out tongue), and I'm like that… if i really love the person, I am like that… and i know some people who love just as much as i do, with all their hearts, who never feel the need to EXPRESS the love, because it is there in their hearts. Which is fair enough. To each their own (although it irritates me like heck when I end up showing my love ALL the time, and they rarely ever do!! Sigh…)…

      And hey… it depends on which way you look at it, na? Love without any of the physical part can still be the purest, most beautiful thing in your life… but I think (and this is strictly a personal viewpoint here, I'm not stating it is the case for everyone) there comes a certain point when you want to know that person upside down and inside out… and i think that the physical part of love becomes just as important as the emotional part of it… maybe not for a long time, maybe not immediately, but sometime, somewhere, the feelings start to creep in… how can you NOT call this love? Love without the emotional aspect of it is nothing, nothing at all. But when the emotional aspect is there, why can't there be a physical aspect too? What is wrong with wanting to get to 'know' someone so intensely? You have gotten their minds etched in your heart, why not have their body etched there too? Is there anything 'wrong' with that?

      And as for expressing that 'special' feeling more than once with different people… that is only for the people in question to think about… Time moves on, people move on, Life moves on… and who was once someone you loved with all your heart (and had a physical relationship with), may not hold that 'special' place in your heart any more… but why (as a friend puts it…) “insult” love? Why (as I put it… lol) “deny” love?

      Feelings, when genuinely felt, are genuine. And if YOU feel, if YOUR HEART feels, they are genuine… then that is good enough for me.

      This is not to say every single relationship you have is 'genuine'… but when it is, it is. And nothing in the world can deny that. So what if the feelings go away after a time? Living for the moment, when they WERE genuine, there is nothing wrong with sleeping with them. And then when Life carries your path elsewhere, let it. Just don't ever regret it, or say it wasn't Love…
      This is something I had written down in my notebook… a random thought that flowed into my head:
      Sex isn't abo
    • #56870
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Boo,

      I do respect your views. But, As a Muslim speaking on behalf of my
      other brothers and sisters in Islam, I think Religion is a very beautiful
      and important thing. without that belief in God, then whats the point of
      life. God brought us into this world so that we would live, worship, love,
      be loved and so forth. We do have ourselves and our strengths, but all that
      came from God. I honestly think that I wouldn't be able to live a day
      without waking up and praising my Lord for being alive, for having the
      opportunity to praise him and live life with that aim for paradise. I think
      Muslims in particular, just can't do that. Because Islam is not just religion, its a way of life. Everything that it teaches is the perfect way
      to live. If we follow what it says, we'd never ever have to go to sleep
      feeling guilty. We'd learn to love everything around us. I also believe that
      no one could ever be their own boss. I mean, when I look at myself from a
      non-religious point of view, I'd never find a wrong in myself. No one
      realizes their own mistakes if they dont have rules to follow. Religion is
      indeed freedom. It's a beautiful way of life. I say this with much respect
      and im also just writing my honest views and beliefs with no intention to
      hurt anyone at all.

      take care

      bye!

    • #56871
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      Yemenilicious:

      Boo,

      I do respect your views. But, As a Muslim speaking on behalf of my
      other brothers and sisters in Islam, I think Religion is a very beautiful
      and important thing. without that belief in God, then whats the point of
      life. God brought us into this world so that we would live, worship, love,
      be loved and so forth. We do have ourselves and our strengths, but all that
      came from God. I honestly think that I wouldn't be able to live a day
      without waking up and praising my Lord for being alive, for having the
      opportunity to praise him and live life with that aim for paradise
      . I think
      Muslims in particular, just can't do that. Because Islam is not just religion, its a way of life. Everything that it teaches is the perfect way
      to live. If we follow what it says, we'd never ever have to go to sleep
      feeling guilty. We'd learn to love everything around us. I also believe that
      no one could ever be their own boss. I mean, when I look at myself from a
      non-religious point of view, I'd never find a wrong in myself. No one
      realizes their own mistakes if they dont have rules to follow. Religion is
      indeed freedom. It's a beautiful way of life. I say this with much respect
      and im also just writing my honest views and beliefs with no intention to
      hurt anyone at all.

      take care

      bye!

      Yemen, Firstly kewl nic, it reminds me of sumthing that i just cant recall r8 now…

      oh an welcome !!!

      then off coz, if ur a guy and single and luking, I am officially asking u to Marry me !!!!! hehehehehe omw, am jj sweetz, dont fret okies

      Am surprised to find sooo much devotion from an individual in such a looong time…

      go strong in your faith !!!!

    • #56872
      Maizara
      Participant
      boo:

      Would you believe me if I said I understand where you’re coming from Oreo ji… I really do. I was the same when making the transition from religion to atheism, I blamed God for all the bad happenings in the world. Now I realise what a stupid argument that is… there is more to my atheism than just ‘Why would God do this to us?’ But there are some points I must stress…

      As an atheist, i.e. NOW (if you remember, I used to have a religion – two in fact), I don’t blame God for everything that goes wrong. I blame it on human folly, and circumstances instead Big Smile no, jokes aside, I don’t blame religion or God. Because neither exist in my eyes, although when people say that God metaphorically exists in their hearts, I have no words to say back to them. Because there is one argument I can never argue against, what’s in your heart is in your heart, and no amount of rational thinking can take it out of your heart.

      Hi boo, I've a question for you.. I'm just curious.. Smile

      You said you had two religions, I guess at the same time right? where you are in between both?

      Then what made you refuse those two religions, and then make the transition to atheism?

      Does that mean at the same time, you refused God too?

      I guess that will make it two qns.. Smile

    • #56873
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      hey fwendz

      seeing as everyone is keen on sharing their views on religion, beliefs, love etc ….am hoping u can assist with below:

      “A few colleagues and i were discussing religion and some of the practices, eg

      Why do we sacrifice a life to GOD when every animal, plant, human belongs to God??

      ( question posed by one of the guys ) …he goes on to say that we follow our religion and practice accordingly but if one actually think about this in particular , why do we do it?? Specifically related to HINDUS – is this stated in the Ramayan, Bhagavad Gita, Vedas, Puranas and other religious scriptures…that this should be practiced seeing as most hindus are vegetarians??? Off coz EVERYONE is welcome to comment on this..

      Another guy then gave us one of the reasons:

      “Apparently during the wars between good and evil, as in God and the Devil,

      Every time a demon was slain, once its blood touched the ground, another demon formed…having no other choice, God then decided to drink the blood of all demons that were slain…am not sure if this even makes sense but YES this is one of the theories I heard today… so its sparks MY curiosity as well…

      Then another went on to say that even in India, there’s a certain caste who consume the bodies of corpses, now this is something I really can’t believe actually happens??

      Btw, these are very religious people I was chatting to and they were NOT joking around, in fact seeing as none here had fully read the scriptures etc, I decided to do a little research via this forum in the hope that we ( I ) can actually find answers to above…

      <span s

    • #56874
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      1. you know, i agree with you scar face… all i have to say on this is a quote i once read:

      Some people see things and ask, “Why?”. I see things and ask, “Why not?” as crazeee as this may sound my dear, this was one of the many “Quotes “ I had on my lil space here at work….jeeez weird !!!!

      2. I LOVE the rain… and i hate umberellas ..you do the math lol… i found oreo ji's statement intriguing… more like “ wat da !!!! is dis guy 4 real hehehehe??”

      I don't get what oreo ji is trying to say hmmm… if he's trying to say anything at all… well I seem to have developed an offbeat whacky sense of humor soooo my thought process got me laughing until tears streamed down my face, everyone here thought I was crazeee hehehehehe….

    • #56875
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      “””””Love is never helpless. And about Love being content in knowing that there is Love… that varies from person to person na? Example: some people constantly feel the need to show and express love (the 'touchy-feely' types, if you want ), and I'm like that… if i really love the person, I am like that… and i know some people who love just as much as i do, with all their hearts, who never feel the need to EXPRESS the love, because it is there in their hearts. Which is fair enough? To each their own (although it irritates me like heck when I end up showing my love ALL the time, and they rarely ever do!! Sigh…)…

      And hey… it depends on which way you look at it, na? Love without any of the physical part can still be the purest, most beautiful thing in your life… but I think (and this is strictly a personal viewpoint here, I'm not stating it is the case for everyone) there comes a certain point when you want to know that person upside down and inside out… and i think that the physical part of love becomes just as important as the emotional part of it… maybe not for a long time, maybe not immediately, but sometime, somewhere, the feelings start to creep in… how can you NOT call this love? Love without the emotional aspect of it is nothing, nothing at all. But when the emotional aspect is there, why can't there be a physical aspect too? What is wrong with wanting to get to 'know' someone so intensely? You have gotten their minds etched in your heart, why not have their body etched there too? Is there anything 'wrong' with that?””” Absolutely nothing wrong with feeling this way Missy Boo and once more am in total agreement with you!!

      “”””And as for expressing that 'special' feeling more than once with different people… that is only for the people in question to think about… Time moves on, people move on, Life moves on… and who was once someone you loved with all your heart (and had a physical relationship with), may not hold that 'special' place in your heart any more… but why (as a friend puts it…) “insult” love? Why (as I put it… lol) “deny” love?

      Feelings, when genuinely felt, are genuine. And if YOU feel, if YOUR HEART feels, they are genuine… then that is good enough for me.

      This is not to say every single relationship you have is 'genuine'… but when it is, it is. And nothing in the world can deny that. So what if the feelings go away after a time? Living for the moment, when they WERE genuine, there is nothing wrong with sleeping with them. And then when Life carries your path elsewhere, let it. Just don't ever regret it, or say it wasn't Love…

      This is something I had written down in my notebook… a random thought that flowed into my head:”””””

    • #56876
      Am Rani
      Participant
      boo:

      And hey… it depends on which way you look at it, na? Love without any of the physical part can still be the purest, most beautiful thing in your life… but I think (and this is strictly a personal viewpoint here, I'm not stating it is the case for everyone) there comes a certain point when you want to know that person upside down and inside out… and i think that the physical part of love becomes just as important as the emotional part of it… maybe not for a long time, maybe not immediately, but sometime, somewhere, the feelings start to creep in… how can you NOT call this love? Love without the emotional aspect of it is nothing, nothing at all. But when the emotional aspect is there, why can't there be a physical aspect too? What is wrong with wanting to get to 'know' someone so intensely? You have gotten their minds etched in your heart, why not have their body etched there too? Is there anything 'wrong' with that?

      And as for expressing that 'special' feeling more than once with different people… that is only for the people in question to think about… Time moves on, people move on, Life moves on… and who was once someone you loved with all your heart (and had a physical relationship with), may not hold that 'special' place in your heart any more… but why (as a friend puts it…) “insult” love? Why (as I put it… lol) “deny” love?

      Feelings, when genuinely felt, are genuine. And if YOU feel, if YOUR HEART feels, they are genuine… then that is good enough for me.

      This is not to say every single relationship you have is 'genuine'… but when it is, it is. And nothing in the world can deny that. So what if the feelings go away after a time? Living for the moment, when they WERE genuine, there is nothing wrong with sleeping with them. And then when Life carries your path elsewhere, let it. Just don't ever regret it, or say it wasn't Love… So true!! You don't need to feel sorry, if you had se.x with someone you love, but at the end, he or she turns out to be not the ne you will share the rest of you life with. If you loved eachother at the moment you had s.ex with eachother, than it's a good thing, a special something between two people, an expression of their love…
      This is something I had written down in my notebook… a random thought that flowed into my head:
      Sex isn't about waking up one morning to find the naked body of a stranger next to yours.
      Sex is about waking up the next morning and finding your heart in every pore of the naked body next to yours…

      I completely agree, Booji!! I already thought I was the only one who had this opinion on this topic…

    • #56877
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Scar Face,

      Why thank u! lol I'm not a guy and not looking either, BUT I AM SINGLE. lolll Thank u for ur encouragement. I really appreciate it Smile. And also thank u lots for the welcoming. =]

      take care

    • #56878
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      Yemen, you couldn't have said it more perfect!! I'm not a Muslim myself, but I totally agree with you…

      Btw… I love your signature Smile

    • #56879
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Awwwww thank you! Smile

      I love that quote. its one of my favorites. 🙂

      Take care ji!

      I love ur nic!

    • #56880
      Khushi
      Participant

      Hi Yemenilicious Smile

      Can I request something please? I love your avatar picture. Any chance you could tell me where u got it from? Or send it to me via PM? I would be grateful.

      Thanks,

      Khushi.

    • #56881
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      Yemenilicious:

      Scar Face,

      Why thank u! lol I'm not a guy and not looking either, BUT I AM SINGLE…. great sweetz welcome to the world of US deliriously HAPPY single women, or exception to the rare men that pop in frm time to time ….Right Hug

      lolll Thank u for ur encouragement. I really appreciate it Smile. And also thank u lots for the welcoming. =]

      take care….I definitely will, back at ye my dear !!!

      Firslty Slmz to ye…

      aaaaw, u are soooo schweeetz Big Smile, I thot u wud have a reaaaaalllllly sour comeback, damn Wink!!!! but then not everyone here are narrow minded….Smile

      cheerz

      Scar face

    • #56882
      boo
      Participant

      Am Rani ji… Smile you're not the only one…

    • #56883
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Am Rani:
      Hahaha, you should have seen a smile on it… I know you didn't mean to be funny, Raniji, but it sounded SO sweet Wink And a bit funny, to be honest, haha.(Really, I'm not laughing at you)

      And yes, I do know about condoms. I grew up in the Netherlands, where having s.e.x before marriage is completely accepted (so is living together without being married, having children withour being married, and two men/women getting married), so I'm very aware of the risk s.e.x might bring, and how to protect myself. But, as I said, I'm not someone who sleeps around. I don't believe in s.e.x. without love, and as you know I have no boyfriend… Wink

      No boyfriend?..hmmm…and Am Rani hunnz, I didn't mean u sleep around with anyone. I'm talking about generally, u know? what some or most girls do?
      U know I don't think about u like that. Right Hug and hunny, i don't know…but i just think that people should wait until after marriage…that's just my opinion.

      Scar Face- hey hunny, don't worry about knowing how to use a condom, just don't try to get into a situation where u would have to use one. even if u did, u wouldn't be the one worrying about it. and yes ji, they don't always work. errr yeah…

      Scar face:

      Yemen, Firstly kewl nic, it reminds me of sumthing that i just cant recall r8 now…

      oh an welcome !!!

      then off coz, if ur a guy and single and luking, I am officially asking u to Marry me !!!!! hehehehehe omw, am jj sweetz, dont fret okies

      Am surprised to find sooo much devotion from an individual in such a looong time…

      go strong in your faith !!!!

      Wow, I'm surprised how you recognized her os well. Yemenilicious(my habeebati) definately has a strong emaan. You don't even know exactly how much devoted she is! I love that about her. Smile

    • #56884
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Raniiiiiiiiiii! I love u! uhhh thank youuu man! hehehehe I'm hungry! gimme some of ur oranges ..and some of that indian ice cream plej. iigh, ese!

      salaam!

    • #56885
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      Scar Face- hey hunny, don't worry about knowing how to use a condom,( wow, i must have been totally out of my head, when typing that one hehehehehehehehe ahahahahahaha lmao…sowrie sweetz….) just don't try to get into a situation where u would have to use one. okay will try my best Winken if u did, u wouldn't be the one worrying about it. Confused why the heck not???…am just as responsible as my errr partner r8! !!! and yes ji, they don't always work. errr yeah…

      Wow, I'm surprised how you recognized her os well. Yemenilicious(my habeebati) definately has a strong emaan. You don't even know exactly how much devoted she is! I love that about her. Smile ….

      am sure I will get to knw Yemen soon enuf….like I said ,her faith and devotion touched me….admirable Big Smile

    • #56886
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant
      Scar face:

      her faith and devotion touched me….admirable Big Smile

      Same for me here… I wish I could be like that!!

    • #56887
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      I've read something I'd like to share with u guys. Here it goes…

      Asking = Getting????

      I prayed for strength, and God gave me difficulties to become strong.

      I prayed for wisdom, and God gave me problems to learn to solve.

      I prayed for prosperity, and God gave me intellect and muscles to work with.

      I prayed for courage, and God gave me danger to conquer.

      I prayed for love, and God gave me people to help.

      I prayed for favours, and God gave me chanches.

      I got nothing I prayed for, and God gave me everything I needed.

    • #56888
      boo
      Participant

      I have seen this one before Shakz… I'm pretty sure of it… but here is my (an atheist's? Maybe not ALL atheists' but certainly THIS atheist's…) viewpoint… Smile no offence intended…

      Asking = Getting????

      I prayed wished for strength, and God Life gave me difficulties to become strong.

      I prayed wished for wisdom, and God Life gave me problems to learn to solve.

      I prayed wished for prosperity, and God Life gave me intellect and muscles to work with.

      I prayed wished for courage, and God Life gave me danger to conquer.

      I prayed wished for love, and God Life gave me people to help.

      I prayed wished for favours, and God Life gave me chanches.

      I got nothing I prayed wished for, and God but I gave m(yself) everything I needed.

      … semantics, you could argue… Smile

    • #56889
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      Boo, I know it's your opinion, but I don't agree with you (I don't think that surprises you Wink) that you can give yourself everything you need. You always have to depend on others… For example: If the bakery is closed and you don't know how to make bread yourself, you don't have bread.

      And what kind of power or God is “life”? Life itself is nothing. It's an expression of God's way with us. God IS life!! Life wouldn't exist if God didn't exist. God created a life for us, with its good and its bad sides. God created US. Without God “we” and “life” wouldn't exist. Nothing would have existed without God… But God made everything for us. Gave us a life, a home, food, love and so on. God IS everything and everywhere…

      Sorry Boo, I just can't agree with you eventhough I do respect your opinion.

    • #56890
      Am Rani
      Participant
      boo:
      Am Rani ji… Smile you're not the only one…

      That's good to know, ji! Left Hug

    • #56891
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      I agreee shakz! Smile 100% correct!

    • #56892
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Hey Hey! No ganging up on my twin ji! Stick out tongue lol. just kidding, i know u guys wouldn't do that. Big Smile

      But yeah, I agree with u as well Shakz. Smile

    • #56893
      boo
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      Hey Hey! No ganging up on my twin ji! Stick out tongue lol. just kidding, i know u guys wouldn't do that. Big Smile

      But yeah, I agree with u as well Shakz. Smile

      no ganging up but you're still on Shakz's side? Surprise kidding yaar… i LOVE YOU!! Right Hug

    • #56894
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      lol. Stick out tongue I'm always on your side hunnz! I just don't agree with u on this one. lmao! Right Hug Big Smile

    • #56895
      boo
      Participant

      Smile i love that our friendship is stronger than these disagreements! Right Hug

    • #56896
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Jes! How could we ever gang up on boo..even if we do, consider us gonners Stick out tongue fo shiggity!

    • #56897
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      boo:
      Smile i love that our friendship is stronger than these disagreements! Right Hug

      Smile Me too. Left Hug

      nooo! habeebati's ghetto side is surfacinnngggg! lol. Stick out tongue

    • #56898
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Lmbo! hahaha Rani. Big Smile. don't make me get all ghettooo on juuuu now. plej =p

    • #56899
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      It's good to see that you guys, Yemen and Rani, agree with me Smile But hey… we would never gang up on you Boo!! We like you too much to do so… Eventhough we don't share the same opinion sometimes, you're still my smiling buddy Smile

    • #56900
      boo
      Participant
      Shakalaka Baby:
      It's good to see that you guys, Yemen and Rani, agree with me Smile But hey… we would never gang up on you Boo!! We like you too much to do so… Eventhough we don't share the same opinion sometimes, you're still my smiling buddy Smile

      hai hai… Smile now… are you saying if you didn't like me, you would have ganged up on me for thinking differently? Surprise Stick out tongue

      KIDDING!!! sorrysorrysorry…. couldn't resist, i know you guys wouldn't ok… just a joke… seriously! love you! Right Hug

    • #56901
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      Guys… do we still believe her after saying something horrible about me like she did in the above post? Wink I have to think about that for a while… Stick out tongue

    • #56902
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      I am still thinking…

    • #56903
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      Alright Boo ji, I forgive you… Wink You can't be mad at someone who says I love you right?!

    • #56904
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Habeebati jaaaaan, u know i love ur ghettoness. Big Smile u better come to Madress today! I have lots to tell u about last night!!! Big Smile

      lol! I love my Boo ji! She may say some crajee things while she's in her crajee mood becuz she's been listening to crajee kiya re from Dhoom 2 all day, but we can forgive her for her crajeeness, hai na? Big Smile

    • #56905
      Maizara
      Participant
      ~Khushi~:

      See I think the notion of religion being a debatable issue which somewhat 'clashes' with atheism when It says “thou shalt not” in its literal form i.e. the Bible etc. I mean, religion is dedication. Dedication is only dedication when carried out with passion, will, belief in/on it. But I think the way its preached is causing the problems in the way it is perceived by society, especially the modern world where technology has overpowered our vision. What I mean by dedication… for example, If an artist is not appreciated by society and people, told that he is useless. Does that mean he should stop following his passion? Can religion not be a passion? Passion is free, but it has rules which are personalised. Why cant rules in religion be personalized, but yet not abuse the very existence of religion? I mean, I am a Hindu but I dont believe in neither the 'cast' system, nor the 'untouchables' and (…this one might make the boys cringe, but i really disagree with it) not being able to go to temple just because women go through menstruation and so arent 'clean'. This are issues created by authoritative figures which have nothing to do with religion. I think most of these sort of rules preach prejudice. Which religion says love is wrong? NONE. Which religion says loving someone who is of a different religion/race or even nationality/breed is wrong? MOST. Why? Which case is religion standing for here? Love or Division? God definitely never in any form denied humans to loving someone of a different existence what so ever. If he’s created people of a different colour, faith or “background” and has also created free love, then whats the problem? Again the preaching.

      Religion and God for me are two different things. I have 100% faith in God. Why, you might ask. Because I cannot ignore the fact that the sun rises every morning and sets every evening. A child is born everyday, a life is created every day and a life leaves everyday. How can such HUGE issues are stated as ‘by chance’ by some people, I don’t know. Again, as boo said this is an open discussion not aimed to hurt anyone. Religion is the WAY a GROUP of people wish to contact God. Some people do it via meditation. Group prayers are thought by some as powerful and moving, to themselves. But neither has superior than each other. Therefore, no religion is superior either. You can connect with God in which ever way possible.

      I see and feel God in nature. And in its beauty I see his vision and his love. [the usual usage of most religions to see God as a ‘he’ is something much easier to say in English. By no means do I think God has a gender. He/She/ Divine is fine with me]

      Yes things go wrong, yes people die, yes innocent lives are lost – but who are you to judge that all of this has no meaning? On what basis can you blame God for this when your vision is only in the

    • #56906
      Maizara
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:

      Boo,

      I do respect your views. But, As a Muslim speaking on behalf of my
      other brothers and sisters in Islam, I think Religion is a very beautiful
      and important thing. without that belief in God, then whats the point of
      life. God brought us into this world so that we would live, worship, love,
      be loved and so forth. We do have ourselves and our strengths, but all that
      came from God. I honestly think that I wouldn't be able to live a day
      without waking up and praising my Lord for being alive, for having the
      opportunity to praise him and live life with that aim for paradise. I think
      Muslims in particular, just can't do that. Because Islam is not just religion, its a way of life. Everything that it teaches is the perfect way
      to live. If we follow what it says, we'd never ever have to go to sleep
      feeling guilty. We'd learn to love everything around us. I also believe that
      no one could ever be their own boss. I mean, when I look at myself from a
      non-religious point of view, I'd never find a wrong in myself. No one
      realizes their own mistakes if they dont have rules to follow. Religion is
      indeed freedom. It's a beautiful way of life. I say this with much respect
      and im also just writing my honest views and beliefs with no intention to
      hurt anyone at all.

      take care
      bye!

      Such gratitude… I enjoyed reading yours too, yemenilicious. Smile

    • #56907
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      y thank u Maizara! Smile

    • #56908
      nitzah
      Participant
      God gave me stylllllleeeeeeee, God gave me Grace
      God put a smiyyyyyaaaalllllleeee on my face
    • #56909
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      Getting all rythem and rhyming, hah?! Wink

    • #56910
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Why did we stop debating? Boo got her answer?

    • #56911
      boo
      Participant

      Hehe… I dunno if I've found my answer…. I do realise I have some Qs to answer in this thread… will do it later… Smile

    • #56912
      Khushi
      Participant

      And then I turn up with another question….

      Vegetarianism? Eating meat is a part of human nature? Is it? Or, animals should be loved, as fellow living creatures, not eaten ?

    • #56913
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      God gave us meat, of course we can eat it!

      it's YUMMY! Big Smile

    • #56914
      Khushi
      Participant

      Ok lemme rephrase tht q

      Eating animals. Meat comes from them right? So in one sense, infact in all senses we are eating the animals.

      Rani, interesting comment. I dont know, but does it say in religion we should eat animals? Would be of real interest to find out…

    • #56915
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Yes, it is stated in Islam that we should eat meat because God gave it to us so that we can eat it.

    • #56916
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      God gave us meat, of course we can eat it!

      it's YUMMY! Big Smile

      For sure Rani! Smile

    • #56917
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:
      Yes, it is stated in Islam that we should eat meat because God gave it to us so that we can eat it.

      Yes, that is where Qurbani comes from.

      Khushi, are you vegetarian?

    • #56918
      Khushi
      Participant

      Qurbani? Sacrifice? Explain to me rani!

      Yes I am veggie, my family however isnt… I use to throw up when i was lil if i was fed it. Am happy tht i did now.

    • #56919
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      My pleasure, I shall explain.

      Qurbani is an urdu word i blieve that derives from the arabic word “Qurban” which literally means an act performed to seek Allah (swt)'s pleasure. It is technically used for the sacrifice of an animal slaughtered for the sake of Allah Ta'ala.

      The Sacrifice of an animal has always been a recognized form of worship in many religions, but in the Shariah (Islamic sacred law) our beloved Prophet (PBUH), the sacrifice of an animal has been recognized as a form of worship only during the three days of the month of Thul Hajjah (the 12th month of the Islamic callendar), namely the 10th, 11th and 12th days. Smile

    • #56920
      boo
      Participant
      ~Khushi~:

      And then I turn up with another question….

      Vegetarianism? Eating meat is a part of human nature? Is it? Or, animals should be loved, as fellow living creatures, not eaten ?

      Khushi ji…

      I was only the other day reading some of the older posts, and I saw your post (to DH? not sure…) on how you cook veggie, as you're a veggie, but your family isn't… 🙂

      Your question is interesting…

      First thing I think of when this issue is raised is double standards. Really. Myself included, in all honesty.

      On one hand, people feel bad seeing animals get hurt, etc. On the other hand, they eat them.

      On one hand, they don't like to see animals getting tortured. On the other hand, they stuff their faces with meat.

      We say that it is wrong to kill another soul, and yet we are OK to eat the meat on the plate in front of us.

      Another thing that bugs me (sorry if this offends people, I really am.) is when people go half and half – i.e. they say they will eat non veg only on certain days of the week. Um. HELLO???!!! What difference does it make to the animal killed whether you eat it on a Wednesday or a Saturday?? How does the day of the week you eat it on affect ANYTHING in ANY way? I find that hypocritical (sorrysorrysorry again), to say “Oh today's a Tuesday, I only eat veg.” And that makes up for all the others days you DO eat dead animals?

      Urk!

      Such is the way of life, I guess…

      And yes, as you may have guessed, I am not a vegetarian. Au contraire, I LOVE McDonald's and I do pig out when I eat meat (not as much as some people, admittedly, but I still pig out…). Of course, it does make me sad to think a soul, a life, has been lost for my eating pleasure, but I don't think of that when I'm eating it I admit. Nor do these thoughts enter my mind often, in all honesty…

    • #56921
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      ~Khushi~:
      Eating animals. Meat comes from them right? So in one sense, infact in all senses we are eating the animals.

      Yes, we are eating the animals. But they were made for us to eat(the ones that were made for eating), so it's okay.

      boo:
      On one hand, people feel bad seeing animals get hurt, etc. On the other hand, they eat them.

      On one hand, they don't like to see animals getting tortured. On the other hand, they stuff their faces with meat. It is stated in Islam that if you are slaughtering the animal, you must do it in a way so that the animal is not tortured to death. If the animal is pained, the meat becomes haraam and you are not allowed to eat it.

      boo:
      Another thing that bugs me (sorry if this offends people, I really am.) is when people go half and half – i.e. they say they will eat non veg only on certain days of the week. Um. HELLO???!!! What difference does it make to the animal killed whether you eat it on a Wednesday or a Saturday?? How does the day of the week you eat it on affect ANYTHING in ANY way? I find that hypocritical (sorrysorrysorry again), to say “Oh today's a Tuesday, I only eat veg.” And that makes up for all the others days you DO eat dead animals?

      lol. sorry, but this made me laugh. Tongue Tied

      Anywho, I love meat. It's delicious dii! lol. Sorry. *becomes a murghi* wahaaahahahaa! murghi! Get it!?! lol! woops! Sorry!

    • #56922
      Shereena
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      God gave us meat, of course we can eat it!

      it's YUMMY! Big Smile

      …God gave us pigs too but we can't eat those…he gave alotta things and we don't eat those..lol sorry felt the need to comment.

    • #56923
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      lol shereena ji, no need to be sorry at all! Yes ji, God sure did give us pigs, but not to eat. He clearly stated that pigs are haraam, they are forbidden to eat. That is why we do not eat pig. Plus, they're icky! They roll around in mud all day! Why would we want to eat it? yuck! hehe. anywho, hope that answers ur question…if it was a question, that is. Tongue Tied

    • #56924
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:
      boo:
      Another thing that bugs me (sorry if this offends people, I really am.) is when people go half and half – i.e. they say they will eat non veg only on certain days of the week. Um. HELLO???!!! What difference does it make to the animal killed whether you eat it on a Wednesday or a Saturday?? How does the day of the week you eat it on affect ANYTHING in ANY way? I find that hypocritical (sorrysorrysorry again), to say “Oh today's a Tuesday, I only eat veg.” And that makes up for all the others days you DO eat dead animals?

      lol. sorry, but this made me laugh. Tongue Tied

      Hahaha, it made me laugh too!! Big Smile And hey… I DO think you're absolutely right about this Boo!! If you're a veggie, you're a veggie everyday…

    • #56925
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      About religion and being a vegetarian… I think everyone should decide for him/herself. In the Bible (I dunno very much about the Islam, sorry…) it says that God created the animals to be food for us and to be inferior to human beings. That doesn't mean you should eat meat, but we may eat animals, and also use them for sacrafices. God gave us lots of food to survive on earth, and I believe we can choose what we eat and what we don't want to eat. Except of course for some animals that are forbidden in our religions…

    • #56926
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Yes, In Islam, Allah Ta'ala says that He has given us Animals so that we can eat them. He states whats allowed and whats not of course. But Nowhere does it say that you're sinful if u dont eat it. it's ur choice. We're humans and we all have our likes and dislikes…

    • #56927
      nitzah
      Participant

      Balance the Eco-System…kill em all before they decide to rule the world !

    • #56928
      boo
      Participant
      Shakalaka Baby:

      Except of course for some animals that are forbidden in our religions…

      Don't read if you might be offended…

      bah! On one hand religious people ramble away about how all are God's creation, and all are equal and all that jazz…

      and on the other hand some animals are “allowed” to be eaten and others “forbidden”… seriously, all i can think of to say is “bah!”…

      Who (what?) is religion to decide what we should/shouldn't eat?? bah, yet again!

    • #56929
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      boo:
      Shakalaka Baby:

      Except of course for some animals that are forbidden in our religions…

      Don't read if you might be offended…

      bah! On one hand religious people ramble away about how all are God's creation, and all are equal and all that jazz…

      and on the other hand some animals are “allowed” to be eaten and others “forbidden”… seriously, all i can think of to say is “bah!”…

      Who (what?) is religion to decide what we should/shouldn't eat?? bah, yet again!

      first of all, I don't know who you are referring to (or what religion you are referring to) when you say “religious people ramble away about how all are God's creation, and all are equal and all that jazz” so I really don't know how to reply. Tongue Tied Maybe if u can be a bit more specific…

      Religion does not decide what we should or should not eat, God decides it, and to let us know, He created religion. I don't know about other religions, but in Islam, the reason why certain foods are forbidden(haraam) is because they are harmful and not healthy. For example, Liquor is haraam because it can basically kill you. Drugs(not exactly food, but hey) are also haraam because they are harmful and can kill you.

      About the meat, God stated that we can eat meat(it's not harmful to us, so why not?), that does not mean if you choose not to eat meat, it's a sin. Of course not. Islam is not against vegetarianism(is that right? lol. or did i just make up a word?). You can be a vergetarian or you can choose to eat meat. The decision is yours, as long as the animal that you slaughter is slaughtered in such a way that the animal is not tortured to death.

      Boo ji!!! I am about to say something and I want you to know that I am not saying it to offend you at all. If it does offend you, then I really am sorry, because that is not my intention at all…Right Hug

      boo, I know you hate religion, but if you actually think about it, how would people live without religion? The world would be in complete chaos! People would do anything they wanted to do, because they are their own “God.” It would be hard to firgure out what's right and what's wrong. Boo, you are a good person, you know what's right and what's wrong(and when i say that, i mean u know it is definately wrong to kill, blah blah) but other people don't know, and God is guiding them with religion.

      I don't know if you really thought about it before you became an athiest or not, but think, boo, where did you come from? who made your mother? Your Grandmother? But who made her? Who made the first human on Earth? Who made the Earth? Such a beautiful thing cannot be just a coincidence, hunnz. I don't know how to explain it to you…but there is a God. There is no question about it. All these things going in our lives, someone has to control it all, and someone has to give justice. Imagine all the people who do horrible things, who will justify it all?

      Why do you hate to think that there is someone superior than you that controls your life…maybe that's it, you don't want someone to control your life…but hunnz, no matter what you think, I can tell you with certainty, that someone is controlling your life. All that you do, you do it because it is God's will…

    • #56930
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      Raniji… I couldn't agree more with everything you said in your post, you're absolutely right!! Smile

      There must be a God who created life and created us, so why not thank Him (a little) for that by living according to a religion (and eat some kinds of meat, while you don't eat others)?!

    • #56931
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant
      nitzah:
      Balance the Eco-System…kill em all before they decide to rule the world !

      Nitzah, you're really nuts, hahaha!! Big SmileBig Smile

    • #56932
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Shakalaka Baby:
      Raniji… I couldn't agree more with everything you said in your post, you're absolutely right!! Smile

      There must be a God who created life and created us, so why not thank Him (a little) for that by living according to a religion (and eat some kinds of meat, while you don't eat others)?!

      Smile

      Shakalaka Baby:
      There must be a God who created life and created us, so why not thank Him (a little) for that

      As long as they believe, the rest comes on it's own…

    • #56933
      boo
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      Boo ji!!! I am about to say something and I want you to know that I am not saying it to offend you at all. If it does offend you, then I really am sorry, because that is not my intention at all…Right Hug

      boo, I know you hate religion, but if you actually think about it, how would people live without religion? The world would be in complete chaos! People would do anything they wanted to do, because they are their own “God.” It would be hard to firgure out what's right and what's wrong. Boo, you are a good person, you know what's right and what's wrong(and when i say that, i mean u know it is definately wrong to kill, blah blah) but other people don't know, and God is guiding them with religion.

      Will reply in more detail later Sweety… I have zero time and I should not be typing this out right now! Sigh… anyway, just wanted to say a couple of things:

      1. No no no!! Not at all hun, I doubt anything people say about anything I have to say here will offend me… I've learnt over the years not to let other's voices hurt me so easily… so please, feel free to speak your honest mind with me… and I mean it ji. Smile

      2. Of course, generally speaking, it is not the best way to solve problems, to kill… but think “euthanasia” and “abortion”, and you will realise that I have no fixed opinions on killing… like I have 'no fixed ideas' about ANYTHING… Smile Yes, even pertaining to God… I fully acknowledge I may be wrong, and that there really is a God out there somewhere… the only difference is I don't care if there is, because it is my heartfelt belief that there isn't and until there is proof, I don't see one good reason why I should acknowledge it… Smile

      And freedom, you know, to me means the ability to believe what I want to believe, regardless of what other individuals say, and regardless of whether it is right or wrong… Smile

    • #56934
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      boo:
      Yes, even pertaining to God… I fully acknowledge I may be wrong, and that there really is a God out there somewhere… the only difference is I don't care if there is, because it is my heartfelt belief that there isn't and until there is proof, I don't see one good reason why I should acknowledge it… Smile

      Have you tried looking for proof, or do you just want it to come on it's own? Well, if so, I can show you just a few things that are proof to me that there is a God.

      But, I don't want to offend anyone because what I will show you proves to me that Allah is indeed our God, not anyone else. So if I do offend anyone, I am sorry, that is not my intention at all.

    • #56935
      boo
      Participant

      Have I tried looking for proof?

      Euh… a good question… remember ji? I was once a religious person myself… and those genuine 'moments' that I thought I had with God (whom I believed existed then) I will never, ever deny… feelings can, and should, never ever be suppressed…

      Show me your proof ji… I am curious to know what you will show me… Smile

    • #56936
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      I remember you were once religious ji. Smile What makes someone turn away from God? Maybe, I'm not sure, but maybe it's the way God presented to them…through their religion…try looking at other religions…maybe u might find something…I dunnoe…

      I will show you my proof Inshallah, just not now. I need lots of time to gather up everything I wanna show you. Big Smile

    • #56937
      boo
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      I remember you were once religious ji. Smile What makes someone turn away from God? Maybe, I'm not sure, but maybe it's the way God presented to them…through their religion…try looking at other religions…maybe u might find something…I dunnoe…

      I will show you my proof Inshallah, just not now. I need lots of time to gather up everything I wanna show you. Big Smile

      Big Smile I've tried not one but TWO religions ji! Stick out tongue Although, one WAS a little more 'sincere'… but whatever! I will answer that properly one day… I remember even Maizara asked me about that!

      And – lol – looks like a vadda project you're taking on, Madam… Smile But please don't be offended if I dismiss it – I'm not saying I WILL, but I just wanted to tell you that… Smile Love you!

    • #56938
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      haan, vadde log, vadde baatein. Big Smile

      By dismiss you mean ignore? or deny? explain please!

      and of course I won't be offended! The decision is yours, ji. My duty is to present it to you. Smile If you don't believe…I have done my best. Smile

      and btw, can you tell us which religions you have tried?

    • #56939
      serioComic
      Participant

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

    • #56940
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Very well said, oreo ji. Smile

    • #56941
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      serioComic:

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

      Masha'Allah Masha'Allah Serio, indeed =].

    • #56942
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      lol! Ninja, you sound like one of those old ladies admiring a lil kid! Big Smile

    • #56943
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:
      lol! Ninja, you sound like one of those old ladies admiring a lil kid! Big Smile

      that was exactly how i wanted to sound Big Smile

    • #56944
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Sachi? Then whoo hoo! Big Smile

    • #56945
      serioComic
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:
      lol! Ninja, you sound like one of those old ladies admiring a lil kid! Big Smile

      that was exactly how i wanted to sound Big Smile

      thats cos u are an old lady. no 2 ways about it!!

    • #56946
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      hehehe i guess..im old..and proud =]

    • #56947
      Khushi
      Participant
      serioComic:

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

      A glowing quote there Oreoji, but belief with doubt isn’t belief is it? Gaining and losing shouldn't matter if you believe in something, it shouldn't make a difference? Are you saying that one can say “I believe in God because I have nothing to lose”? Is that really belief? It's interesting you say this though… pretty thought provoking. And yet still, if He does exist and 'we' don’t believe in him- yes we lose everything, but we lose everything that has no value, and gain everything that does- Belief itself. Now gaining and losing makes no difference.

    • #56948
      boo
      Participant
      ~Khushi~:
      serioComic:

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

      A glowing quote there Oreoji, but belief with doubt isn’t belief is it? Gaining and losing shouldn't matter if you believe in something, it shouldn't make a difference? Are you saying that one can say “I believe in God because I have nothing to lose”? Is that really belief? It's interesting you say this though… pretty thought provoking. And yet still, if He does exist and 'we' don’t believe in him- yes we lose everything, but we lose everything that has no value, and gain everything that does- Belief itself. Now gaining and losing makes no difference.

      Wah… to both of you…

      What you have said is interesting, Khushi ji… it's not about losing or gaining? If not about that, then what is Life about? Memories, happiness, peace, Love, respect (to those who care about it), status money (again to those who care about it)… are these not what we are 'gaining'? Or is that 'experiencing'? Hmmm… I dunno… Tongue Tied

      But, (lol, you KNEW I'd come up with something like this didn't you) – and don't read on if you think you will be offended people – It is my belief (only) one stands to lose a lot by believing in God when He doesn't exist… to me, it is as though one is losing one's sense of… i don't know how to explain it… thought? no not quite… sense of… being true to yourself? urgh no… creativity? imagination? i don't know… all i can say is: the 'sheep' metaphor comes to mind again… not to all, I know… some are enhanced by religion. but only i can speak for myself, and i know i wouldn't like that… suppression? aargh I am not good with words people!! Stick out tongue

      but heck, if we're thinking in terms of losing and gaining and how that is immaterial, then what does it matter anyway? Which leads back to Oreo ji's saying…

      Smile

    • #56949
      Khushi
      Participant

      Im not saying losing gaining in life, i mean losing gaining in belief. Thats what my question to Oreoji was, does losing or gaining have any significance when it comes to believing in something? I personally don't think so…

    • #56950
      boo
      Participant

      there is always SOMETHING there to gain, in my opinion ji, when one believes in something… even if that something is only the soft smile of one's heart… that is still a gain, right? Tongue Tied

      If a belief were to have no effect on us, if we really did not care about it… then we wouldn't appreciate it as our belief, would we? If there isn't even some part of that belief that triggers SOMETHING in you, SOME sort of positive response, then what is the point in believing? If not for the 'gain' it gives to our souls?

      Just thoughts yaar…

    • #56951
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      I read some of you guys' thoughts and opinions and beliefs, and I'll feel
      pretty weird if I didnt put my two cents in.

      here's my thoughts on religion- I was born Muslim and my whole life i was
      born to believe all that my parents told me. Rewind to a few years ago in
      my life and ask me about my religion, I'd tell you everything that was poured
      into me.

      But now, after I experienced a hell of a lot to question what I'm doing with
      my life, and life itself. I started getting more involved in Islam, and I
      started going to Islamic school and what not, and man does it make sense now.

      to me, Islam isnt just a religion that billions of people follow like any
      other religion- its the truth.

      Like it or not, its the truth with all its sacrifices and losses.

      there are many people who wish to change that truth to fit their wishes.

      and to whoever said it- maybe you do give up a lot with believing, if you
      REALLY think of what the reward is in the end, you'll wish you could do more.

      and to whoever- being atheist shouldnt be decided after (complete) devotion
      to only 2 religions. But if being atheist is right for you, I pity
      you with all my heart.

      a lot of people think that beleiving in a religion means to go all extreme and
      join a convent or something. Or be all strict and whatnot, which turns them against it altogether. but its not, really.

      I think religion is based on curiosity. if you're curious
      about this world and life, then the true religion should be seeked, and if
      you're compeletly devoted in finding that truth and if you really open your heart and mind, its there.

      but hey, i get how it can be extremely complicated with all the religions out there nowadays.

      well thats what i have to say about religion.

      : )

    • #56952
      boo
      Participant
      Haylie(hayati):

      and to whoever- being atheist shouldnt be decided after (complete) devotion to only 2 religions. But if being atheist is right for you, I pity you with all my heart.

      *grins like an idiot* Big Smile

    • #56953
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      have fun with that my dear.

    • #56954
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Masha'Allah Haylie…

      Religion, In my opinion, is believing in the unseen. In Islam, we have no pics of anything whatsoever. We have the Quraan and The Story and life and traditions of the Prophet and thats about it.

      I as well did not start thinking about Islam and how it applies to my life until a few years back. I wore the hijaab and did everything but only because my parents told me to. When I actually started thinking, “Am i really getting rewarded for what im doing considering I do it for other reasons rather than for the Sake of God nd Him alone,” I was like “whaaa” Im not. All the influences around me kept pulling me away from whats right. Nothing at all got me thinking about my life. Just one day, I sat on the couch and started thinking..Allah decided to give me a wake up call. Only then, was I really interested in Learning more bout my religion so that when ppl ask me “why do u wear that thing on ur head” i'd know how to answer and so forth. Now I do everything i do because I completely believe in it.

      Islam is a complete and perfect way of life (as I see it) and just brings that sense of peace to the heart.

      Atheism, As Rani said, is also a religion, because Atheists follow the concept that there is no God. That I am my own “boss” and no one has the right to make rules for me to follow. Imagine this world without any rules or norms even. Just go and do whatever u desire and want to do without any consequences. Ohhman, wouldnt that be great? of course not, the world will go crazy.

      well..If i keep talking on religion, i'd go on forever..so ill sum it up and say I LOVE BEING A MUSLIM! I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE BEING OTHERWISE.

      Alhamdulillah =] whooohooooo

      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    • #56955
      Nosyira
      Participant
      ~Khushi~:

      Boo I recommend you read this book How To Know God By Deepak Chopra, very interesting read.

      Lol, it reminded me of you when I found it on my shelf. The tag reads ” The Soul's Journey Into The Mystery Of Mysteries”

      Khushi, have you read any other books of his?

    • #56956
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant
      serioComic:

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

      Wow, great quote yaar!!! Smile I wouldn't have believed it if someone told me before that YOU would be the one who was going to say this Wink but anyways: I just love it!! Smile But if anyone does believe in God, please do believe in Him because you love Him whole-heartedly and because you want to believe in Him. Don't do it because you've got nothing to lose…

    • #56957
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      Shakalaka Baby:
      serioComic:

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

      Wow, great quote yaar!!! Smile I wouldn't have believed it if someone told me before that YOU would be the one who was going to say this Wink but anyways: I just love it!! Smile

      I know right shakz. isn't it just..surprising??! lmbo Smile

    • #56958
      Shakalaka Baby
      Participant

      Yes it really is hahahaha!! Stick out tongue But like I said in the Raniii thread: anyone has a pearl hidden somewhere inside of them… Wink

    • #56959
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      for sure yaara, for sure. Wink

    • #56960
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:
      Shakalaka Baby:
      serioComic:

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

      Wow, great quote yaar!!! Smile I wouldn't have believed it if someone told me before that YOU would be the one who was going to say this Wink but anyways: I just love it!! Smile

      I know right shakz. isn't it just..surprising??! lmbo Smile

      It didn't surprise me…

    • #56961
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      LOL Rani, we were kidding. Smile

    • #56962
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      oh.

      my bad. Stick out tongue

    • #56963
      serioComic
      Participant
      ~Khushi~:

      A glowing quote there Oreoji, but belief with doubt isn’t belief is it? Gaining and losing shouldn't matter if you believe in something, it shouldn't make a difference? Are you saying that one can say “I believe in God because I have nothing to lose”? Is that really belief? It's interesting you say this though… pretty thought provoking. And yet still, if He does exist and 'we' don’t believe in him- yes we lose everything, but we lose everything that has no value, and gain everything that does- Belief itself. Now gaining and losing makes no difference.

      i think u r thinking wayyy tooo much from such a simple quote. thats the problem with people, we like to make things more complicated when its actually very simple and straight forward. and again, back to my earlier argument…we only like things when it goes our way.

    • #56964
      Khushi
      Participant

      *Chuckle*

      Maybe I am thinking too much! People like to complicate things? Well I dunno about that Oreoji…. but yeah, have your say.

      “we only like things when it goes our way” – lol……. *sigh* somethings never change…

    • #56965
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      serioComic:
      ~Khushi~:

      A glowing quote there Oreoji, but belief with doubt isn’t belief is it? Gaining and losing shouldn't matter if you believe in something, it shouldn't make a difference? Are you saying that one can say “I believe in God because I have nothing to lose”? Is that really belief? It's interesting you say this though… pretty thought provoking. And yet still, if He does exist and 'we' don’t believe in him- yes we lose everything, but we lose everything that has no value, and gain everything that does- Belief itself. Now gaining and losing makes no difference.

      i think u r thinking wayyy tooo much from such a simple quote. thats the problem with people, we like to make things more complicated when its actually very simple and straight forward. and again, back to my earlier argument…we only like things when it goes our way.

      Thats true Serio, we do tend to only like things when they go our way. But, it doesn't have to be like that Smile

    • #56966
      boo
      Participant
      ~Khushi~:

      *Chuckle*

      Maybe I am thinking too much! People like to complicate things? Well I dunno about that Oreoji…. but yeah, have your say.

      “we only like things when it goes our way” – lol……. *sigh* somethings never change…

      pagalllll… Right Hug

    • #56967
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide y ou with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at
      an inconvenient time, this person will say or do
      something to bring the relationship to an end.
      Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away.
      Sometimes they act up and force you to take a stand. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

      Some people come into your life for a SEASON,
      because your turn has come to share, grow or learn. They bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh. They may teach you something you have never done. They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it, it is real. But only for a season.!

      LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons,
      things you must build upon in order to have a solid
      emotional foundation. Your job is to accept the
      lesson, love the person and put what you have learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life.
      It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.

    • #56968
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      My thoughts:

      Life is a very hard test, the reason Im here is to take this test, pass it or fail it, and then pass on. Everything happens for a very good reason. Whether it's something I fail in, a struggle or losing a loved one, everything was written before i was born. Therefore I should never ever question anything. Saying “why did this happen to me” or “what did i do to deserve this” will get me nowhere. I have to plan keeping in mind that God also plans. I can plan day and night so that things can go 'perfect' but God plans TOO! I should always say “If God wills” when intending to do anything in my life because nothing happens without God's will. I must learn not to complain too much because it will do me no good. My chance to complain and get a result is when im sitting on my prayer mat infront of my Creator. I must learn to accept everything just as it is..no matter how harsh it is on me.

      Love is a beautiful thing. Loving Allah first and foremost, Our beloved Prophet, My family and friends..and getting nothing but love in return is the best thing in this world. Having friends who are there when I'm need is a blessing. They are there not just to share my joy but I also find them beside me when I'm in grief. Haylie and Rani, i want to say, that I thank Allah Subhanahu wata'ala everyday for making us meet. Haylie- Isnt it funny how we used to see each other all the time at school but never really said anything to each other. At least nothing besides hi and bye. lmbo! I'm glad i met you haylie baylie bobblehead. we'll be nerds together until Allah Ta'ala decides otherwise. I promise you. Smile. Rani, it was the best day when i met you at masjid. Never thought we'd become so close, but Allah Ta'ala plans perfectly right? I ask Allah Ta'ala to grant you both the best in this life and in the hereafter. Ameen. Thank you for everything buddies. I love you two for the sake of Allah!

      So, 2006 was a crappish year ehh? Death at the beginning and the end of it.But this year will be better Insha'Allah. If i live till the end of this year, it'll be good enough. I have major goals for this year. May Allah Ta'ala make it easy for me and for everyone who intends to do good in this world. Ameen. Rani and Bobblehead, Insha'Allah we will all help each other reach the goal we all share this year. As long as we have that desire right? The Hafitha system is getting there Masha'Allah. keep it up guys!

      At the end, I want to say, That im thankful for everything that I have and don't have. when I think about it, I bestest Be thankful because, wtheck, look at the ppl suffering because of the war. Every single day, I turn on the darn tv, and the first thing i hear on Aljazeera tv is the deaths of people in Palestine and Iraq. from babies, to children, to teenagers, to adults and seniors. just heart crushing. These poor ppl would do anything for just one day of safety and peace and who am I to complain! OhmyAllah, please please make it better for this Ummah! I know we're sinners and that everything that's happening is somewhat our fault but please Oh Allah, For the sake of Your beloved Messenger! If You decide not to, Insha'Allah, we won't give up! we will stick to Your deen! Ameen. yayy! its outta me! Big Smile

      bye!!

    • #56969
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      My thoughts:

      Life is a very hard test, the reason Im here is to take this test, pass it or fail it, and then pass on. Everything happens for a very good reason. Whether it's something I fail in, a struggle or losing a loved one, everything was written before i was born. Therefore I should never ever question anything. Saying “why did this happen to me” or “what did i do to deserve this” will get me nowhere. I have to plan keeping in mind that God also plans. I can plan day and night so that things can go 'perfect' but God plans TOO! I should always say “If God wills” when intending to do anything in my life because nothing happens without God's will. I must learn not to complain too much because it will do me no good. My chance to complain and get a result is when im sitting on my prayer mat infront of my Creator. I must learn to accept everything just as it is..no matter how harsh it is on me.

      Love is a beautiful thing. Loving Allah first and foremost, Our beloved Prophet, My family and friends..and getting nothing but love in return is the best thing in this world. Having friends who are there when I'm need is a blessing. They are there not just to share my joy but I also find them beside me when I'm in grief. Haylie and Rani, i want to say, that I thank Allah Subhanahu wata'ala everyday for making us meet. Haylie- Isnt it funny how we used to see each other all the time at school but never really said anything to each other. At least nothing besides hi and bye. lmbo! I'm glad i met you haylie baylie bobblehead. we'll be nerds together until Allah Ta'ala decides otherwise. I promise you. Smile. Rani, it was the best day when i met you at masjid. Never thought we'd become so close, but Allah Ta'ala plans perfectly right? I ask Allah Ta'ala to grant you both the best in this life and in the hereafter. Ameen. Thank you for everything buddies. I love you two for the sake of Allah!

      So, 2006 was a crappish year ehh? Death at the beginning and the end of it.But this year will be better Insha'Allah. If i live till the end of this year, it'll be good enough. I have major goals for this year. May Allah Ta'ala make it easy for me and for everyone who intends to do good in this world. Ameen. Rani and Bobblehead, Insha'Allah we will all help each other reach the goal we all share this year. As long as we have that desire right? The Hafitha system is getting there Masha'Allah. keep it up guys!

      At the end, I want to say, That im thankful for everything that I have and don't have. when I think about it, I bestest Be thankful because, wtheck, look at the ppl suffering because of the war. Every single day, I turn on the darn tv, and the first thing i hear on Aljazeera tv is the deaths of people in Palestine and Iraq. from babies, to children, to teenagers, to adults and seniors. just heart crushing. These poor ppl would do anything for just one day of safety and peace and who am I to complain! OhmyAllah, please please make it better for this Ummah! I know we're sinners and that everything that's happening is somewhat our fault but please Oh Allah, For the sake of Your beloved Messenger! If You decide not to, Insha'Allah, we won't give up! we will stick to Your deen! Ameen. yayy! its outta me! Big Smile

      bye!!

      Yumini

      totally agree with sum points and totally disagree with other points

      but am not going elaborate on this NOW…

      hope u guys do achieve all yr goals for this year – Insha Allah

    • #56970
      boo
      Participant
      Scar face:

      People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime.

      Sweetheart, have you read ‘A Tree, A Rock, A Cloud’ by Carson McCullers?

      If you have, tell me what you think of it… if you haven’t, read it (it’s quite short) and then tell me what you think of it…

      I think you will be able to connect to it, in some way or another… *hugs* (Can you feel the hug? Smile)

    • #56971
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime.

      nope, havent read this one….

      hehehehe well if I can find a book store or the library around this place WinkI sure will try to find this book and read it…aaand of coz will tellye wat I think of it…

      u laffing at me and the whole hug episode?????Huh?

    • #56972
      boo
      Participant

      arre scarry… i wasn't laughing…

      and click on the HYPERLINK in that post (the words: a tree, a rock, a cloud)… it takes you to the short story… Big Smile

    • #56973
      Hayliehayati
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:

      My thoughts:

      Love is a beautiful thing. Loving Allah first and foremost, Our beloved Prophet, My family and friends..and getting nothing but love in return is the best thing in this world. Having friends who are there when I'm need is a blessing. They are there not just to share my joy but I also find them beside me when I'm in grief. Haylie and Rani, i want to say, that I thank Allah Subhanahu wata'ala everyday for making us meet. Haylie- Isnt it funny how we used to see each other all the time at school but never really said anything to each other. At least nothing besides hi and bye. lmbo! I'm glad i met you haylie baylie bobblehead. we'll be nerds together until Allah Ta'ala decides otherwise. I promise you. Smile. Rani, it was the best day when i met you at masjid. Never thought we'd become so close, but Allah Ta'ala plans perfectly right? I ask Allah Ta'ala to grant you both the best in this life and in the hereafter. Ameen. Thank you for everything buddies. I love you two for the sake of Allah!

      ha aw vicee versa ol' chap

    • #56974
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      There was a man who had four sons. He wanted his sons to learn not to judge things too quickly. So he sent them each on a quest, in turn, to go and look at a pear tree that was a great distance away.

      The first son went in the winter, the second in the spring, the third in summer, and the youngest son in the fall.

      When they had all gone and come back, he called them together to describe what they had seen.

      The first son said that the tree was ugly, bent, and twisted.

      The second son said no it was covered with green buds and full of promise.

      The third son disagreed; he said it was laden with blossoms that smelled so sweet and looked so beautiful, it was the most graceful thing he had ever seen.

      The last son disagreed with all of them; he said it was ripe and drooping with fruit, full of life and fulfillment.

      The man then explained to his sons that they were all right, because they had each seen but only one season in the tree's life.

      He told them that you cannot judge a tree, or a person, by only one season, and that the essence of who they are and the pleasure, joy, and love that come from that life can only be measured at the end, when all the seasons are up.

      If you give up when it's winter, you will miss the promise of your spring, the beauty of your summer, fulfillment of your fall.


      Moral lessons:

      Don't let the pain of one season destroy the joy of all the rest.

      Don't judge life by one difficult season.


      Persevere through the difficult patches and better times are sure to come some time or later

    • #56975
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      boo:

      arre scarry… i wasn't laughing… I knw Missy boo, Right Hug am in a weird mood – so many mixed eeeemotions, wanna cry, hide away, dont know ….screeeeeeeaaaaaaam…..just sleep to forget ….aaargh sowrie Yaar….I wasnt receptive to Hugz yesterday…but me feels it now…thnksI needed

      it…..an yeah purleeeeeez – u guys know me post Jnb soooo if I get all CRAZEEE, try slapping me back to reality okies 😉 hehehehehe

      and click on the HYPERLINK in that post (the words: a tree, a rock, a cloud)… it takes you to the short story… Big Smileokies Just did that but had to copy/paste and save for alter reading…will tell ye wat I think soon….

    • #56976
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      Around the corner I have a friend,
      In this great city that has no end,
      Yet the days go by and weeks rush on,
      And before I know it, a year is gone.
      And I never see my old friends face,
      For life is a swift and terrible race
      ,
      He knows I like him just as well,
      As in the days when I rang his bell.
      And he rang mine but we were younger then,
      And now we are busy, tired men.
      Tired of playing a foolish game,
      Tired of trying to make a name.
      “Tomorrow” I say! “I will call on Jim
      Just to show that I'm thinking of him.”
      But tomorrow comes and tomorrow goes,
      And distance between us grows and grows.
      Around the corner, yet miles away,
      Here's a telegram sir,” “Jim died today.”
      And that's what we get and deserve in the end.
      Around the corner, a vanished friend.
      Remember to always say what you mean.
      If you love someone, tell them.
      Don't be afraid to express yourself.
      Reach out and tell someone what they mean to you.
      Because when you decide that it is the right time it
      might be too late.
      Seize the day. Never have regrets.
      And most importantly, stay close to your friends and family, for they helped you make a better person that you are today.

    • #56977
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      and click on the HYPERLINK in that post (the words: a tree, a rock, a cloud)… it takes you to the short story… Big Smile

      hey Missy Boo

      okies finally got a chance to read the short story

      ur right!!!

      very heart wrenching stuff, very sweet and sums I am going to dwell on further

      thought provoking…will send u a pm on my thoughts on this okies

      hugz Right Hug

      al

    • #56978
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      ~ Let me help:

      Good friends see a need and then try to fill it. When they see a hurt
      they do what they can to heal it. Without being asked, they jump in
      and help out.

      ~ I understand you:

      People become closer and enjoy each other more when the other person
      accepts and understands them. Letting your spouse know – in so many
      little ways – that you understand them, is one of the most powerful
      tools for healing your relationship. And this can apply to any
      relationship.

      ~ I respect you:

      Respect is another way of showing love. Respect demonstrates that
      another person is a true equal. If you talk to your children as if
      they were adults you will strengthen the bonds and become closer
      friends. This applies to all interpersonal relationships.

      ~ I miss you:

      Perhaps more marriages could be saved and strengthened if couples
      simply and sincerely said to each other “I miss you.” This powerful
      affirmation tells partners they are wanted, needed, desired and loved.
      Consider how important you would feel, if you received an unexpected
      phone call from your spouse in the middle of your workday, just to say
      “I miss you.”

      ~ Maybe you're right:

      This phrase is very effective in diffusing an argument. The
      implication when you say “maybe you're right” is the humility of
      admitting, “maybe I'm wrong”. Let's face it. When you have an argument
      with someone, all you normally do is solidify the other person's point
      of view. They, or you, will not likely change their position and you
      run the risk of seriously damaging the relationship between you.
      Saying “maybe you're right” can open the door to explore the subject
      more. You may then have the opportunity to express your view in a way
      that is understandable to the other person.

      ~ Please forgive me:

      Many broken relationships could be restored and healed if people would
      admit their mistakes and ask for forgiveness. All of us are vulnerable
      to faults, foibles and failures. A man should never be ashamed to own
      up that he has been in the wrong, which is saying, in other words,
      that he is wiser today than he was yesterday.

      ~ I thank you:

      Gratitude is an exquisite form of courtesy. People who enjoy the
      companionship of good, close friends are those who don't take daily
      courtesies for granted. They are quick to thank their friends for
      their many expressions of kindness. On the other hand, people whose
      circle of friends is severely constricted often do not have the
      attitude of gratitude.

      ~ Count on me:

      A friend is one who walks in when others walk out. Loyalty is an
      essential ingredient for true friendship. It is the emotional glue
      that bonds people. Those that are rich in their relationships tend to
      be steady and true friends. When troubles come, a good friend is there
      indicating “you can count on me.”

      ~ I'll be there:

      If you have ever had to call a friend in the middle of the night, to
      take a sick child to hospital, or when your car has broken down some
      miles from home, you will know how good it feels to hear the phrase
      “I'll be there.” Being there for another person is the greatest gift
      we can give. When we are truly present for other people, important
      things happen to them and us. We are renewed in love and friendship.
      We are restored emotionally and spiritually. Being there is at the
      very core of civility.

      ~ Go for it:

      We are all unique indiv

    • #56979
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:

      My thoughts:

      Love is a beautiful thing. Loving Allah first and foremost, Our beloved Prophet, My family and friends..and getting nothing but love in return is the best thing in this world. Having friends who are there when I'm need is a blessing. They are there not just to share my joy but I also find them beside me when I'm in grief. Haylie and Rani, i want to say, that I thank Allah Subhanahu wata'ala everyday for making us meet. Haylie- Isnt it funny how we used to see each other all the time at school but never really said anything to each other. At least nothing besides hi and bye. lmbo! I'm glad i met you haylie baylie bobblehead. we'll be nerds together until Allah Ta'ala decides otherwise. I promise you. Smile. Rani, it was the best day when i met you at masjid. Never thought we'd become so close, but Allah Ta'ala plans perfectly right? I ask Allah Ta'ala to grant you both the best in this life and in the hereafter. Ameen. Thank you for everything buddies. I love you two for the sake of Allah!

      Rani and Bobblehead, Insha'Allah we will all help each other reach the goal we all share this year. As long as we have that desire right? The Hafitha system is getting there Masha'Allah. keep it up guys!

      awww! My beautiful Ninja! Right Hug I love you! Smile

      Remember I told you that you looked at me funny when we first met? lol. I didn't think we would be such great friends either. But haan ji, Allah does plan perfectly. Smile I'm so happy that we met. I'm very fortunate to have a friend like you and I ask Allah to give you the best, you deserve it and much more…Right Hug

      We wouldn't have actually really met if it wasn't for Hayati. We became close only after she left for that month, remember? Well, as much as I missed Hayati in that long month, Allah does everything for a reason…He made us meet. Smile

      I admire you a lot. You're not just a good friend, you're an amazing person. Smile I always have fun with you, and the day you came to my house and we were watching baba Ali, OhmyAllah! It was the best! I had a great time! Big Smile I lub you!

      And Yeah, Inshallah we'll be able to meet our goals. Smile I love the Hafitha System and I love you even more for thinking about it! Right Hug

      Thank you for everything…Right Hug I love you. Smile

      Hayati!!! I Love you oh so much! We became good friends as soon as we met! You hekka made me laugh all the time! Remember how we would sit in the back of the room and talk and appa would get mad at us? lol. And I was labeled the “chatterbox” as well! Stick out tongue and OhmyA

    • #56980
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:
      Yemenilicious:

      My thoughts:

      Love is a beautiful thing. Loving Allah first and foremost, Our beloved Prophet, My family and friends..and getting nothing but love in return is the best thing in this world. Having friends who are there when I'm need is a blessing. They are there not just to share my joy but I also find them beside me when I'm in grief. Haylie and Rani, i want to say, that I thank Allah Subhanahu wata'ala everyday for making us meet. Haylie- Isnt it funny how we used to see each other all the time at school but never really said anything to each other. At least nothing besides hi and bye. lmbo! I'm glad i met you haylie baylie bobblehead. we'll be nerds together until Allah Ta'ala decides otherwise. I promise you. Smile. Rani, it was the best day when i met you at masjid. Never thought we'd become so close, but Allah Ta'ala plans perfectly right? I ask Allah Ta'ala to grant you both the best in this life and in the hereafter. Ameen. Thank you for everything buddies. I love you two for the sake of Allah!

      Rani and Bobblehead, Insha'Allah we will all help each other reach the goal we all share this year. As long as we have that desire right? The Hafitha system is getting there Masha'Allah. keep it up guys!

      awww! My beautiful Ninja! Right Hug I love you! Smile

      Remember I told you that you looked at me funny when we first met? lol. I didn't think we would be such great friends either. But haan ji, Allah does plan perfectly. Smile I'm so happy that we met. I'm very fortunate to have a friend like you and I ask Allah to give you the best, you deserve it and much more…Right Hug

      We wouldn't have actually really met if it wasn't for Hayati. We became close only after she left for that month, remember? Well, as much as I missed Hayati in that long month, Allah does everything for a reason…He made us meet. Smile

      I admire you a lot. You're not just a good friend, you're an amazing person. Smile I always have fun with you, and the day you came to my house and we were watching baba Ali, OhmyAllah! It was the best! I had a great time! Big Smile I lub you!

      And Yeah, Inshallah we'll be able to meet our goals. Smile I love the Hafitha System and I love you even more for thinking about it! Right Hug

      Thank you for everything…Right Hug I love you. Smile

      Awwwwwww Rani! You're the sweetest ever. ahhhh you're an awesome person too. Subhana'Allah. That's so true. IF haylie never left for that one month, may

    • #56981
      boo
      Participant
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      And after we came off the roller coaster, you said, “That was the best two minutes of my life because of you!” lol! I was sitting there scared as a chicken and you were having the best time of your life? Stick out tongue haha.

      ROTFL!!! that's what friends are for, na?

      ooooh – love this pic!! SO cute….

    • #56982
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:
      Awwwwwww Rani! You're the sweetest ever. ahhhh you're an awesome person too. Subhana'Allah. That's so true. IF haylie never left for that one month, maybe we wouldn't have became close friends. ha.

      I love you too Habeebati. May Allah Ta'ala give u the best in this life and in the next Right Hug

      Smile Did I tell you how much I love your duas? lol. They're the best, just like you. Smile I so miss you! Right Hug

      boo:
      RaNi iS ThE BeS:

      And after we came off the roller coaster, you said, “That was the best two minutes of my life because of you!” lol! I was sitting there scared as a chicken and you were having the best time of your life? Stick out tongue haha.

      ROTFL!!! that's what friends are for, na?

      ooooh – love this pic!! SO cute….

      Smile Yeah, that's what friends are for. (thanks hayati) I love that pic, it really is cute. Smile

    • #56983
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      awww Rani…

      I didnt knwo you guys were talking about me 'til i saw my name and i was like 'eh?' then I read back and aww…

      that was hella funny! (hehe hella) ..when we went to the amusement park together. and remember the next day we called and was like ' it wasnt as scary as i thought it would be'…or something along those lines.

      Its funny how you guys say ' if it wasnt for haylie leaving for that month we wouldnt have met'

      ha I wanted to keep you for myself.. ha appa woould be like 'haylie's as quiet as a mouse before Rani comes…” ha

      oh man, because there isnt a week without us seeing each other it feels like we've known each other for years and years.

      we do have tons of fun together. yay us!

      Not Afhgany or Pakistani, just straight up Yemeni.

      Jihad (jihaz), Jembeeya, thats real Beladee

      Ninja will be the only person to understand that (fully)..

      I LOVE YOU BACK!

    • #56984
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      Haylie(hayati):

      that was hella funny! (hehe hella) ..when we went to the amusement park together. and remember the next day we called and was like ' it wasnt as scary as i thought it would be'…or something along those lines.

      I didn't get to go =[ but glad u guys had funnnn. Smile

      ha I wanted to keep you for myself.. ha appa woould be like 'haylie's as quiet as a mouse before Rani comes…” ha

      OMG I so remember Appa saying that Big Smile it was hilarious. But Rani keeps the whole class alive, (fobby accent) v lubju so much Raniiiii. =]

      Not Afhgany or Pakistani, just straight up Yemeni.

      Jihad (jihaz), Jembeeya, thats real Beladee

      Ninja will be the only person to understand that (fully)..

      ROFL as in Jembayya? Yemeni pride all zi way. Big Smile Beladee beladee beladal Yemen..something something hahaha.

      I LOVE YOU BACK!

      Inni Uhibuki fillah Smile ….Yeah im cool i say it that way, it sounds better too Smile

    • #56985
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      ” What our deepest self craves is not mere enjoyment, but some supreme purpose that will enlist all our powers and will give unity and direction to our life. We can never know the profoundest joy without conviction that our life is significant – not a meaningless episode. The loftiest aim of a human life is the ethical perfecting of mankind – the transfiguration of humanity.”

    • #56986
      boo
      Participant

      To know what you prefer instead of humbly saying Amen to what the world tells you you ought to prefer, is to have kept your soul alive.

      Robert Louis Stevenson
      Scottish author (1850 – 1894)

      You guys don't understand how MUCH that quote is “me”…. it is so, so me. lol. Big Smile And so is the picture in my signature… that could well have been me there… Smile

    • #56987
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      U r8 dis does sound like u a lot…well a lot like Missy Boo from this forum lol

      as for the pic, u actually got me squinting trying to figure out Huh?

      cute pic though, reminds me of one my nephew had taken of me at the beach with my

      hair being blown away ( like in the movies lmao ) …the background of the Durbans Glorious beach, *****ssssssiiiigggghhhhhhh******

      home swcheeeeeet home

      I do Love the quote…

    • #56988
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Haylie(hayati):
      awww Rani…I didnt knwo you guys were talking about me 'til i saw my name and i was like 'eh?' then I read back and aww…that was hella funny! (hehe hella) ..when we went to the amusement park together. and remember the next day we called and was like ' it wasnt as scary as i thought it would be'…or something along those lines.

      lol. Yeah, I said it wasn't as scary as i thought it would be. I would do it again, actually. and I would have probably went on Medusa with you if we had enough time and u persuaded me enuf. lol. and yep, it was hekka fun, we should do it again! Big Smile *excited* and this time we have to drag Ninja with us! lol. Big Smile

      oh oh! And that part was hekka funny when we were praying and everyone was staring at us! lol. and yeah, I didn't even hear the music when I was praying, Alhumdulillah.

      Haylie(hayati):
      Its funny how you guys say ' if it wasnt for haylie leaving for that month we wouldnt have met'

      ha I wanted to keep you for myself.. ha appa woould be like 'haylie's as quiet as a mouse before Rani comes…” ha wanted to keep me for urself? lol. ur too funny. Big Smile OhmyAllah! Appa completely labeled me as the chatterbox! I so do not talk that much! do I? lol. Well, maybe I do, but come on, I wasn't the only one talking, you were talking with me! lol. I never noticed you as quiet becuz you always talked hekka with me, but Appa kept saying ur quiet until i come. lol. She even wanted ot separate us! that would have been so not cool…

      Haylie(hayati):
      oh man, because there isnt a week without us seeing each other it feels like we've known each other for years and years.

      we do have tons of fun together. yay us! there isn't a week without us seeing each other it feel like we've known each other for years? What the heck? lol. Do u mean that a week hadn't even passed after we met, but it felt like we knew each other for years and years? lol. Well, if so, yeah, I feel like I've known you since forever! lol. I love you tonz! Smile

      Haylie(hayati):
      Not Afhgany or Pakistani, just straight up Yemeni.

      Jihad (jihaz), Jembeeya, thats real Beladee

      Ninja will be the only person to understand that (fully)..

      I LOVE YOU BACK!

      hey hey, u translated for me, remember? Stick out tongue lol. I love you too, hayati!

      Yemenilicious:
      Haylie(hayati):
      ha I wanted to keep you for myself.. ha appa woould be like 'haylie's as quiet as a mouse before Rani comes…” ha

      OMG I so remember Appa saying that Big Smile it was hilarious. But Rani keeps the whole class alive, (fobby accent) v lubju so much Raniiiii. =] </BLOCKQUOTE

    • #56989
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      Just some random ***sayings*** that really got under my skin, thought I should share a bit with u All…..

      Have u ever noticed that the worst way to miss someoneis when they are right

      Beside you and yet u can never hold them..when the moment u cant feel them under your finger tips, u miss them????????????

      Have u ever wondered which hurts the most, saying something and wishing you had

      Not, or saying nothing and wish u HAD???

      Have u ever loved someone and they had absolutely no idea whatsoever?? Or loved yr best friend in the entire world – then u sit back and watch him/her love another????

      Have u ever denied your feelings for someone because your fear of rejection was too hard to handle????????

      Had u ever decided not to become a couple because you were so afraid of losing what u already have with the person??

      Don’t be afraid to tell someone you love them, if you do ..they may break your heart…

      If you don’t …u may break theirs…

      Now the question is…

      Which is worse…..lmao….

    • #56990
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      pshkkkkkkkkkkkk – and we wonder why life is confusing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • #56991
      Marine
      Participant

      DI that actually made me cry cause its a question well all go through….and i actually took the chalenge and ended up where i am. But you know what i love this i really do.

      Kavs i knowyou are right there with me crying so are you Didi

      OK LADY BE HONEST HOW MANY OF YOU CRYED.

    • #56992
      boo
      Participant
      Scar face:

      Have u ever noticed that the worst way to miss someoneis when they are right

      Beside you and yet u can never hold them..when the moment u cant feel them under your finger tips, u miss them????????????

      this is so beautiful… I put that as my MSN name… Smile

    • #56993
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      honestly I didnt cry, it just made sense to me

      dnt have no more tears, ( I think ) to cry…lol but am by yr side through this alwayz…

      will be here to wipe away them tears and gve u the strength and love u deserve

      Sweetz ***hugz**** U will be ok…Promise

      Kavs, sent u that email, as in email through your email ..yahoo not a PM okies

      luw u tooo sweetness…

    • #56994
      Marine
      Participant

      DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII i'm alright i promis i'm wacky today SmileyCentral.com

    • #56995
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Marine – dont cry hun! but if you are or you did – here's mah shoulder —- just waiting for you to cry on

      although i dont even want 2 hear u crying! sometimes its good to cry though you know what…. b/c it rids your chest of so much crap & sometimes you feel so much better after crying

      ali – luv – h ru? hope good! mah shoulder is here fr you too!

      booji – h r u hun

      so busy here trying To study — during spreak break — i know guyz dont laugh at my life! but yeah i got

      to study coz i have mah exams when i go out back — love, Kav

    • #56996
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      Marine:
      DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII i'm alright i promis i'm wacky today SmileyCentral.com

      GOT it………………………..take care hun

    • #56997
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      ali – luv – h ru? hope good! mah shoulder is here fr you too!

      so busy here trying To study — during spreak break —

      i know guyz dont laugh at my life! but yeah i got

      to study coz i have mah exams when i go out back — love, Kav

      waaaat ?? wat da heck u talkin bout sweety…??

      yr education is DAMN important, soooo yeah if anyone laffs coz u need to spend more time

      getting the best grades, to hell with em….

      u just go ahead hun…aaaand all the best…

      meeeee is well thanks…hope ur better tooo??

      thnks..luw…same here..shoulders and all nah lol

      take it easy sweety and ***smile***

    • #56998
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      boo:
      Scar face:

      Have u ever noticed that the worst way to miss someoneis when they are right

      Beside you and yet u can never hold them..when the moment u cant feel them under your finger tips, u miss them????????????

      this is so beautiful… I put that as my MSN name… Smile

      k

    • #56999
      kavita_0026
      Participant
      Scar face:
      Marine:
      DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII i'm alright i promis i'm wacky today SmileyCentral.com

      GOT it………………………..take care hun

      lol she must hav been

      check out that smiley lolz

    • #57000
      kavita_0026
      Participant
      Scar face:

      waaaat ?? wat da heck u talkin bout sweety…??

      yr education is DAMN important, soooo yeah if anyone laffs coz u need to spend more time

      getting the best grades, to hell with em….

      ali -! well thanks for that note…naww i was juz sayin that coz..im tellin yu guyz the truth n was hopin that you guyz dont think im like……..

      u know…….. study forever have no fun dont go out type

      although i kinda am..lol did i just reveal that?!

      ne way love yeh

      kav

    • #57001
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      I knw u are….:-)

      so wat if u are the study only type, do u really think thats sums bad??

      coz it aint sweety..i knw it seems **UNCOOL** at times

      u knw the saying..*beauty is in the eye of the beholder**

      well to me** FUN ** can be described the same……..

      Fun: hmmmm u dnt have to go out to parties or to dance clubs to have fun hey…

      just remember this….***hugz***

    • #57002
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      hey di..naw i shundt say im the all studying type

      rather i am definitely the person who doesnt like to go out and stuff type

      naw..i guess hey…not an uncool thing coz..at least it'll get me a job if i study hard haha

    • #57003
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      For sure sweet Kav…Right Hug

    • #57004
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      alritey mah schweet sista

      huggies for yeh too

      i so gats to force mah lil bum offa this computer chair right now n kick it to go sit it down at my desk n STUDY lol

    • #57005
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      lol…for once not much thoughts…

      am content..just wondering about a few friends and constructing what I wanna say to them…

      eish Life….

      and am thinking:

      love never dies a natural death, it dies because we dont know how to replenish

      its source..

      it dies of blindness and errors and BETRAYALS.

      it dies of illness and wounds, it dies of weariness, of whithering of tarnishing

      most of all LOVE sux…

      but then everyone knows I think this …hahahaha

      you will never know true happiness until u have truly loved, and u will never understand what pain really feels like

      until you have lost it…ie LOVE…

    • #57006
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      [:'(] awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww you're gonna make me tear now….that was so DEEP omG! I told you you talk like SO

      poetic i shud learn from you! defnitely!

      aww hun…is everything alright with you there….? i trust you to always keep up hope up b/c i believe you in whole heartedly

      *warm hugs*

    • #57007
      Hayliehayati
      Participant
      Scar face:

      you will never know true happiness until u have truly loved, and u will never understand what pain really feels like

      until you have lost it…ie LOVE…

      thats true…

      oh and I was reading the thread, and just now i decided to read your post on the first page. I always skipped it (sorry) because it was just toooooooo long. But idk, i read it right now, from the bottom up actually lol, and….wow….I like a few things you said in there…i wont bring up an old topic now, just wanted to let you know…

    • #57008
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Hayati…it took me a min. to figure out who you were talking to…if it is boo that you were talking to. lmao.

      Big Smile

    • #57009
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      silly woman

      i was talking to the person i quoted.

    • #57010
      serioComic
      Participant
      Haylie(hayati):

      silly woman

      i was talking to the person i quoted.

      oh really? wow! that must be quite an accomplishment for you!

    • #57011
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      starting stuff?

      lets take it outside homie

    • #57012
      serioComic
      Participant

      wana take it outside? sure thang. this wont take long..

    • #57013
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      como es grosero!

    • #57014
      serioComic
      Participant

      so where do u wana go first? dinner or dance?

    • #57015
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      …pedo

      me no gusta bailar o cenar

      conseguir una vida mi amigo!

    • #57016
      serioComic
      Participant

      u no gusta bailar? well me no gusta bailar either.

      u no cenar? well me no cenar either.

      i just know we need to take it outside

    • #57017
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      khara boy.

    • #57018
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      LOL Haylie…=P

      uhm..u found no other word but khara? how about…umm..nvm ahahahaha =D

    • #57019
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      i love the word KHARA!

      it sounds 'nice' to people who dont know what it means

      like a little girl's name…

    • #57020
      boo
      Participant

      Would ya care to tell us what it means, then? Hehe!

    • #57021
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      lololol

      maybe…privately…

      but you'll think I'm gross.

    • #57022
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      Haylie(hayati):

      i love the word KHARA!

      it sounds 'nice' to people who dont know what it means

      like a little girl's name…

      Haylie hush yo mouf, little girl's name. ehh? okay votever.

    • #57023
      Hayliehayati
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:
      Haylie(hayati):

      i love the word KHARA!

      it sounds 'nice' to people who dont know what it means

      like a little girl's name…

      Haylie hush yo mouf, little girl's name. ehh? okay votever.

      LMAO

      it does!

      not to you 'cause you know what it means.

    • #57024
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      you know what it means too. now hush yo mouf.

      try something cooler sounding.

      like dem names our parents give us of the most famous stupid ppl or slow from 38947389473589 yrs ago or w.e

      WOLLY =P

      ok NO REALLY IM LEAVING

      BYE!

    • #57025
      Hayliehayati
      Participant

      I don't know what you just said

    • #57026
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      LOL me neither =p

    • #57027
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      haylie….wot does it mean ? lol

    • #57028
      Hayliehayati
      Participant
      kavita_0026:
      haylie….wot does it mean ? lol

      AHAHHAHA…wouldnt you like to know

    • #57029
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      uhhHmm sure why not?

    • #57030
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      kavita_0026:

      [:'(] awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww you're gonna make me tear now….that was so DEEP omG! I told you you talk like SO

      poetic i shud learn from you! defnitely!

      aww hun…is everything alright with you there….? i trust you to always keep up hope up b/c i believe you in whole heartedly

      *warm hugs*

      kavz…yup all is kewl with me…really..its extremely damn cold here….lol

      **warmer hugz ***back to you luwie

    • #57031
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      Haylie(hayati):
      Scar face:

      you will never know true happiness until u have truly loved, and u will never understand what pain really feels like

      until you have lost it…ie LOVE…

      thats true…

      oh and I was reading the thread, and just now i decided to read your post on the first page. I always skipped it (sorry) because it was just toooooooo long. But idk, i read it right now, from the bottom up actually lol, and….wow….I like a few things you said in there…i wont bring up an old topic now, just wanted to let you know…

      lmao …have no idea wat u are talking bout sweety…really…u are just tooo much Haylie..Right Hug

      from da bottom up huh…hmmm dat must be my special ..err extra special talent …

      good to see u like wateva it be…u were reading…

    • #57032
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      sigh…

      ok right now am wondering…just wondering..

      how on earth can someone fall and die??

      like just faint and then die…??

      seriously….

      **drop dead** u knw dat saying r8

      how can that be true???

      HOW?? can sumone faint and then die…a few minutes later???

      dats wats on my mind at the moment…thinking bout this…

      Life is a joke…a big damn freak show

    • #57033
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      didi are you alright???? please tell me that you are! & where did you get these thoughts from !!

    • #57034
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      oh yeah, am good thanks Kavz..

      well my cousin had passed on last week, I mean she just fainted and died ..sooo yeah

      my thoughts were centred around her at the time…

    • #57035
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      oh my good god; i am so sorry to hear what happened didi

      what was the situation behind this? was your cousin sick? or had background illnesses? oh my god

      Let us just pray that she is in the abode of the lord & her soul will rest in peace

    • #57036
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      Scar face:

      oh yeah, am good thanks Kavz..

      well my cousin had passed on last week, I mean she just fainted and died ..sooo yeah

      my thoughts were centred around her at the time…

      Awww Inna Lillah…

      I'm so sorry to hear that jaan. Right Hug

      May she rest in peace Inshallah.

    • #57037
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      tnx my dears…am sure she is in peace…

      my thoughts for the moment:

      am wondering if i am actually serving my **purpose** on earth

      apart from wasting all the oxygen I breathe in …like seriously

      am just tired…tired of life..of being here..of wasting away each precious gifted second

      ….

      i either do sumthing thats GOING to make a difference or end it all..seriously..

      i thought I will find a purpose, find myself, my true calling if I moved away from home

      I feel the same…worse now in fact, apart from the blissfullness surrounded by not

      having to witness the harshness of LIFE..of MY LIFE…

      my thoughts…are all entwined ..

      10 years ago, this was not the future I envisioned, not the future I dreamed offf..

      how does this happen, how is it one can sooo blindly follow a different path form

      altogether??

      I know its been my choice all this time.

      My thoughts….:-( am just confused…I dont know which way to go…

      Am

    • #57038
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      I hate it when the forum duplicate my posts…

      aaaarghhhhhh.

    • #57039
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      Living on Earth is expensive,
      but it does include a free trip
      Around the sun every year.

      How long a minute is
      depends on what side of the
      bathroom door you're on.

      Birthdays are good for you;
      the more you have,
      the longer you live.

      Happiness comes through doors you
      didn't even know you left open.

      Ever notice that the people who are late
      are often much jollier
      than the people who have to wait for them?

      Most of us go to our grave
      with our music still inside of us.

      If Shoprite-Checkers is lowering prices every day,
      how come nothing is free yet?

      You may be only one person in the world,
      but you may also be the world to one person.

      Some mistakes are too much fun
      to only make once.

      Don't cry because it's over;
      smile because it happened.

      We could learn a lot from crayons:
      some are sharp, some are pretty,
      some are dull, some have weird names,
      and all are different colors….but
      they all exist very nicely in the same box.

      A truly happy person is one who
      can enjoy the scenery on a detour.

      and the best for last:

      Working for God on earth does not pay much,
      but His Retirement plan is out of this world.

    • #57040
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Those are some nice thoughts Scarry =)

    • #57041
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      Scar face:

      tnx my dears…am sure she is in peace…

      Ameen!

    • #57042
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      my thoughts are centred around my career, my job, my work, my life hahaha

      seeing as it takes most of my precious hours …I need sum serious re-thinking on this

      is all of this even worth it..the daily madhouse..

      do i truly love my job??

      am i being truly TRUE to myself here

      or am i simply being ignorant to my hearts desires

      my thoughts …

      ~s~

    • #57043
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Yumin darlin' how are you?

      Ali darlin darlin darlin wud yeh try to cheer up …at leat just for me…. remember when you told me to just smell some flowers and look at tem and admire them just for you…

      do this just for me because i care abt you and i want you to look at any fresh rose and stare at it with gleaming eyes and observe its beauty and smell the air and be thankful for it

      thoughts being centered on career is an alright thing didi you are a working woman!!! you mean power..power i say!!!

      love, being true to yourelf requires you yourself to think about lots of things

      As for my feelings – well im trying to just make my self really happy —- just trying trying trying —- hey got to fake it until yah make it right ?! And besides, we cant cry every day … forever – right?

      How do you think it feels to know that your parents really dont care or they dont show anything towards you … really it was worst on me before but now

      i've realized that I should give apart of my heart to the one who finds some nicely thing within me

      only a part of my heart though, most definitely not much – protection i say protection from pain – someting i can not bear

      And i shalt say that althought i have forever been sinking in a huge and deep river i am resting somewhat comfortably on a piece of board and although i am freezing and its mad cold i am laughing hard

      although i scorn myself at my reflection my imagination has been bursting lately with hopes of a change

      i am drowning in big gobules of fear like particles yet there's some space in between of that that says they will increase in time and fear shall be decreased thereafter

      ah this is what i am saying this is what it is

    • #57044
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      Hey luw

      Firstly am a lil jealous coz am dying to watch dat surfer dude but simply dnt have the damn time….

      Anywyz glad u enjoyed it except my dear, u and yr dude…need to watch ROMANTIC movies together…Jeeez…more lessons coming yr way.

      Firstly, why are u crying huh??? U want me to come over there and thump u ..okies I meant HUG u ..hahaha

      Stop it now…okies wait cry..but not sooo much that yr eyes luk like u’ve had a bottle of Vodka …haha

      Hun ***hugz Kavs tightly*** dnt wanna let go….dnt be so hard on them, u know they are going through sum **patches** …from what u told me…

      Besides, u are sooo darn lovable, hw can u even think yr folks dnt love u???

      They do, its just the way they look at things/life etc differs from the way u do…

      I can identify with yr statement, parents can sometimes concentrate sooo much on

      Everything else that seems important ( which is in its own way ) and in the interim neglect to SHOW their kids the love and comfort they shud …dat doesn’t necessarily mean they care less, they simply don’t express themselves in the appropriate manner..

      Pain, as in heartache is not something anyone should endure but it happens, sooo yeah do protect yr heart from it but not soo much so that u miss the beauty of loving another ….

      And allowing them to reside within the beats of yr beautiful heart…use instinct hun, am sure u will know whom to trust and who u can let in….

      The view must be awesome from that board of yrs hey…can I join u, hold yr hand, and just chill, taking in the sun as it protects us from that coldness…just chatting, laffing???

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    • #57045
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him but was moved by Arthur's youth and ideals. So, the monarch offered him his freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question. Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer and, if after a year, he still had no answer; he would be put to death.

      The question? . . . What do women really want? Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man, and to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query. But, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end.

      He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everyone: the princess, the priests, the wise men and even the court jester. He spoke with every one, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer.

      Many people advised him to consult the old witch, for only she would have the answer.

      But the price would be high; as the witch was famous throughout the kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged.

      The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no choice but to talk to the witch. She agreed to answer the question, but he would have to agree to her price first.

      The old witch wanted to marry Sir Lancelot, the most noble of the Knights of the Round Table and Arthur's closest friend!

      Young Arthur was horrified. She was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one tooth, smelled like sewage, made obscene noises, etc. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature in all his life.

      He refused to force his friend to marry her and endure such a terrible burden; but Lancelot, learning of the proposal, spoke with Arthur. He said nothing was too big of a sacrifice, compared to Arthur's life and the preservation of the Round Table.

      Hence, a wedding was proclaimed and the witch answered Arthur's question thus:

      What a woman really wants, she answered . . . is to be in charge of her own life.

      Everyone in the kingdom instantly knew that the witch had uttered a great truth and that Arthur's life would be spared.

      And so it was, the neighboring monarch granted Arthur his freedom and Lancelot and the witch had a wonderful wedding.

      The honeymoon hour approached and Lancelot, steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom. But, what a sight awaited him. The most beautiful woman he had ever seen lay before him on the bed. The astounded Lancelot asked what had happened

      The beauty replied that since he had been so kind to her when she appeared as a witch, she would henceforth be her horrible, deformed self only half-the-time and the beautiful maiden the other half.

      Which would he prefer? Beautiful during the day . . . or night?

      Lancelot pondered the predicament. During the day, a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his castle, an old witch? Or, would he prefer having a hideous witch during the day, but by night, a beautiful woman for him to enjoy wondrous intimate moments?

      What would YOU do?

      What Lancelot chose is below. BUT . . . make YOUR choice before you scroll down below. OKAY?

      Noble Lancelot said that he would allow HER to make the choice herself.

      Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time because he had respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life.

      Now . . . what is the moral to this story?

      The moral is . . .

      If you don't let a woman have her own way . . .

      Things are going to get ugly!

    • #57046
      serioComic
      Participant

      let it get ugly then…

    • #57047
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      serioComic:
      let it get ugly then…

      lol. ooooooook

    • #57048
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      sumtimes in life, we tend to hurt the ones we truly love the most

      without even realising that we are doing this …

      sumtimes we are blinded by the fear of the *unknown* and off coz feelings that

      cant be controlled…or maybe it can be controlled yet in that split second u see all the negatives and this builds up in such speed that it overwhelm the good??

      in soo doing, we cause the one thing we do not want or have never thought we will accomplish, or the one crime we know we dont want to commit, we HURT the one we love…

      A scar in the heart that cannot be erased, maybe time will allow it to heal

      maybe not…

      just a random thought, more like my feeling for this moment …

    • #57049
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Sigh … things sound tough *hugs*

    • #57050
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      ….yeah that happens…Alie

      Right Hug

    • #57051
      serioComic
      Participant
      Yemenilicious:

      ….yeah that happens…Alie

      Left HugRight Hug

    • #57052
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh whatttt daa…?

    • #57053
      vchenoah
      Participant

      sorry, but I just have to HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA at that!

      very nice! Big Smile

    • #57054
      boo
      Participant

      (ditto)

    • #57055
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      LMAO! oh ninja, you will never hear the end of this from me! *giggles*

      Oreo ji – No more walls around your heart? Well, ninja is a ninja, she's got the skills to break walls. Wink

    • #57056
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      lol, well said ranz 🙂

    • #57057
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      I wanna be in the middle of nowhere…well somewhere in Rural India…

      Right now…wish I cud pack up and leave…

      for sum reason my heart seems to be placed somewhere there

    • #57058
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      why do i have the same feeling?

      except not in Rural India..I was thinking more of a ….i dunno, just not here.

      Right Hug

    • #57059
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      If I had a dime for each time my feet were in one place and my heart was someplace else, I'd be thinking of a hostile-takeover bid for Arcelor-Mittal.

      Rural India is not the place to be right now, what with Monsoon, not unless you are mad about storm-clouds that rain Felines, Canines and the whole freakin' animal kingdom. But, less than a stone's throw away (Erm a really small stone thrown by a very very strong person), is a place I believe God crafted with love. On top of this small hill are these huge boulders that overlook a valley where busy farmers bustle about raising pineapples among other things. I go there when I feel like my life is disintegrated. Clear blue skies, delicate wisps of journeying clouds, the faint aroma of ocean breeze bearing with it bits and pieces of muffled voices of the farmers below fussing over plant and soil…magically and mystically, all becomes well with the world.

      Creation bears God's signature. Here…there…everywhere!

    • #57060
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Smile

    • #57061
      vchenoah
      Participant
      SenorJalapeno:
      Creation bears God's signature. Here…there…everywhere!

      right words. right time.

    • #57062
      boo
      Participant
      SenorJalapeno:

      If I had a dime for each time my feet were in one place and my heart was someplace else, I'd be thinking of a hostile-takeover bid for Arcelor-Mittal.

      Rural India is not the place to be right now, what with Monsoon, not unless you are mad about storm-clouds that rain Felines, Canines and the whole freakin' animal kingdom. But, less than a stone's throw away (Erm a really small stone thrown by a very very strong person), is a place I believe God crafted with love. On top of this small hill are these huge boulders that overlook a valley where busy farmers bustle about raising pineapples among other things. I go there when I feel like my life is disintegrated. Clear blue skies, delicate wisps of journeying clouds, the faint aroma of ocean breeze bearing with it bits and pieces of muffled voices of the farmers below fussing over plant and soil…magically and mystically, all becomes well with the world.

      Creation bears God's signature. Here…there…everywhere!

      How do I explain to you how much this sentence has calmed me, Senor? Your words are not just lying there on the computer screen, for the sake of being there, like a mess of clothes lying in the corner of a bathroom floor.. they are full of life, evoking thought and feeling in my mind, pulling my eyes into a beautiful walk with those funny-looking combination of straight lines and curves that we call letters, words and sentences.

      (You are not secretly an author, are you?)

    • #57063
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      boo:

      How do I explain to you how much this sentence has calmed me, Senor? Your words are not just lying there on the computer screen, for the sake of being there, like a mess of clothes lying in the corner of a bathroom floor.. they are full of life, evoking thought and feeling in my mind, pulling my eyes into a beautiful walk with those funny-looking combination of straight lines and curves that we call letters, words and sentences.

      (You are not secretly an author, are you?)

      LOL, boo. I've thought of that Stick out tongue

    • #57064
      Unique_Princess
      Participant

      me too! I've been a silent spectator Senor J. You have amazing writing skills! I wish I could write that sophisticatedly! I need to, if I'm to become an author some day! lol hopefully…!

    • #57065
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Insha'Allah!

    • #57066
      Unique_Princess
      Participant

      Insha'Allah! You better read my books or else! lol Stick out tongue

    • #57067
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      psht nig.gerita, imagine it with me…

      imma pick up a book by you and it's gonna be called something like “What is love?” imma read the first sentence which will go something like “Love…comes in many many forms, love…” next action will be *slams book and throws on shelf*

      i keeed i keed i laayaah, of course i'll read ur lame books Big Smile

    • #57068
      Unique_Princess
      Participant

      LOLLLLLLLLLL ur such a DODO!

      I'm not writing a dictionary! LOL. but if I was you'd be classed under LOSERFACE! and Yes, my dictionary would include the word loserface. You shud feel special loool.

    • #57069
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      *feels awesomely special* and apparently it would include the word “shud” as well. Wink

    • #57070
      Unique_Princess
      Participant

      damn right it would! oops I mean “wud” Wink

    • #57071
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      SAY BYE BYE TO THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE OR THE SPELLING I GUESS Stick out tongue

    • #57072
      Unique_Princess
      Participant

      My dictionary is not of the English language. Its gona be called Slangish. wat the heck i need sleep.

    • #57073
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      slangish is…

      YO YO WAT IT DO MY NIG.GA Stick out tongue

      goooo sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeep Angry

    • #57074
      Unique_Princess
      Participant

      Lol I'm going, I'm going! Nightttttttt nighttttttttt my high on crack ninja! ILY!

    • #57075
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      NIGHTTT ILY323232342

      …yeah u get the point Stick out tongue

    • #57076
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Boo: 'How do I explain to you how much this sentence has calmed me, Senor? Your words are not just lying there on the computer screen, for the sake of being there, like a mess of clothes lying in the corner of a bathroom floor.. they are full of life, evoking thought and feeling in my mind, pulling my eyes into a beautiful walk with those funny-looking combination of straight lines and curves that we call letters, words and sentences.(You are not secretly an author, are you?).'

      Ninja: 'LOL, boo. I've thought of that'

      U_P: 'me too! I've been a silent spectator Senor J. You have amazing writing skills! I wish I could write that sophisticatedly! I need to, if I'm to become an author some day! lol hopefully…!'

      I always believed that sometimes what we say of others and unto others reveals more about us than it does about them, or at the least, as much it does about them. I see my belief mirrored in the kind words above. I write as I feel, and perhaps, if I feel too much, it is only because I have always had wonderful women as friends, who have nurtured in me the desire to see the invisible and sense the unspoken. I believe, that you all have more than what it takes to write beautifully, in fact, far more sententiously than me.

    • #57077
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      SenorJalapeno:

      If I had a dime for each time my feet were in one place and my heart was someplace else, I'd be thinking of a hostile-takeover bid for Arcelor-Mittal.

      Rural India is not the place to be right now, what with Monsoon, not unless you are mad about storm-clouds that rain Felines, Canines and the whole freakin' animal kingdom. But, less than a stone's throw away (Erm a really small stone thrown by a very very strong person), is a place I believe God crafted with love. On top of this small hill are these huge boulders that overlook a valley where busy farmers bustle about raising pineapples among other things. I go there when I feel like my life is disintegrated. Clear blue skies, delicate wisps of journeying clouds, the faint aroma of ocean breeze bearing with it bits and pieces of muffled voices of the farmers below fussing over plant and soil…magically and mystically, all becomes well with the world.

      Creation bears God's signature. Here…there…everywhere!

      Dats it..I don’t care about the weather..If I cud stay here in this feeeze then I could live in bliss anywhere else

      Sooo am going to start packing, u do the same coz I need a guide..

      Will send u the details of time..place etc …

      Ur up for dat???

      Yumz ur coming along with off coz

      If yr heart is elsewhere its time to leave Mr..

    • #57078
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      letz gooo scarry….

      A thought:

      it amazes me how people who aren't even related to you can care wayyy more than your own blood…in fact, your own fam. can be against you and support you not…and certain friends for example are ready to go through everything with you…no matter how harsh…

      Smile

    • #57079
      Mukesh
      Keymaster
      Yemenilicious:

      letz gooo scarry….START PACKING ….JALDI

      A thought:

      it amazes me how people who aren't even related to you can care wayyy more than your own blood…in fact, your own fam. can be against you and support you not…and certain friends for example are ready to go through everything with you…no matter how harsh…

      I KNOW …MAIN HOON NAH TOOO **WINKZ** LOVE U LIL ONE …

      Smile

    • #57080
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      I love you too Right Hug

      are u feeling better?

    • #57081
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      urgh nope!! not better…will be ..

      JUST A POEM:

      I am not his or hers or theirs

      I am mine, me, self

      Whole

      Individuality at its essence

      Why say u know me??

      I don’t know u, just what u care to tell

      Do u feel my pain, I yours??

      Have been down to my particular hell??

      Do u stir to my joys or struggle in the agony of my mind??

      No…noooooo

      Then WHY do I seek u out??

      Need to be close to you and all mankind??

      Is it because I and u and all are one??

      No division:

      Father, mother, sister, son, lover neighbor, enemy, friend

      Black, white and yellow, form the whole

      Is this the individual???

    • #57082
      Unique_Princess
      Participant

      oooh I like Smile Thought provoking.

    • #57083
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Here is another that warms my soul: It's Thomas Gray's 'Elegy Written In A Country Churchyard.' But, I'm sure you already know this.

      The curfew tolls the knell of parting day,
      The lowing herd winds slowly o'er the lea,
      The ploughman homeward plods his weary way,
      And leaves the world to darkness and to me.

      Now fades the glimmering landscape on the sight,
      And all the air a solemn stillness holds,
      Save where the beetle wheels his droning flight,
      And drowsy tinklings lull the distant folds:

      Save that from yonder ivy-mantled tower
      The moping owl does to the moon complain
      Of such as, wandering near her secret bower,
      Molest her ancient solitary reign.

      Beneath those rugged elms, that yew-tree's shade,
      Where heaves the turf in many a mouldering heap,
      Each in his narrow cell for ever laid,
      The rude Forefathers of the hamlet sleep.

      The breezy call of incense-breathing morn,
      The swallow twittering from the straw-built shed,
      The ***'s shrill clarion, or the echoing horn,
      No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed.

      For them no more the blazing hearth shall burn,
      Or busy housewife ply her evening care:
      No children run to lisp their sire's return,
      Or climb his knees the envied kiss to share,

      Oft did the harvest to their sickle yield,
      Their furrow oft the stubborn glebe has broke;
      How jocund did they drive their team afield!
      How bow'd the woods beneath their sturdy stroke!

      Let not Ambition mock their useful toil,
      Their homely joys, and destiny obscure;
      Nor Grandeur hear with a disdainful smile
      The short and simple annals of the Poor.

      The boast of heraldry, the pomp of power,
      And all that beauty, all that wealth e'er gave,
      Awaits alike th' inevitable hour:-
      The paths of glory lead but to the grave.

      Nor you, ye Proud, impute to these the fault
      If Memory o'er their tomb no trophies raise,
      Where through the long-drawn aisle and fretted vault
      The pealing anthem swells the note of praise.

      Can storied urn or animated bust
      Back to its mansion call the fleeting breath?
      Can Honour's voice provoke the silent dust,
      Or Flattery soothe the dull cold ear of Death?

      Perhaps in this neglected spot is laid
      Some heart once pregnant with celestial fire;
      Hands, that the rod of empire might have sway'd,
      Or waked to ecstasy the living lyre:

      But Knowledge to their eyes her ample page,
      Rich with the spoils of time, did ne'er unroll;
      Chill Penury repress'd their noble rage,
      And froze the genial current of the soul.

      Full many a gem of purest ray serene
      The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
      Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
      And waste its sweetness on the desert air.

      Some village-Hampden, that with dauntless ***
      The little tyrant of his fields withstood,
      Some mute inglorious Milton here may rest,
      Some Cromwell, guiltless of his country's blood.

      Th' applause of list'ning senates to command,
      The threats of pain and ruin to despise,
      To scatter plenty o'er a smiling land,
      And read their history in a nation's eyes,

      Their lot forbad: nor circumscribed alone
      Their growing virtues, but their crimes confined;
      Forbad to wade through slaughter to a throne,
      And shut the gates of mercy on mankind,

      The struggling pangs of conscious truth to hide,
      To quench the blushes of ingenuous shame,
      Or heap the shrine of Luxury and Pride
      With incense kindled at the Muse's flame.

      Far from the madding crowd's ignoble strife,
      Their sober wishes never learn'd to stray;
      Along the cool sequester'd vale of life
      They kept the noiseless tenour of their way.

      Yet e'en thes

    • #57084
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      oooh I like Smile Thought provoking.

      Big Smile it is nah

    • #57085
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      A little story that should be read and hopefully makes as much sense to u as it did to me: Life is to be lived. No excuses. No reservations. No holding back.

      An enchanting story about violinist Fritz Kreisler tells how he once came across a beautiful instrument he wanted to acquire. When he finally raised the money for the violin, he returned to buy it and learned that it had already been sold to a collector.

      He went to the new owner's home in order to try to persuade him to sell the violin. But the collector said it was one of his prized possessions and he could not let it go. The disappointed Kreisler turned to leave, but then asked a favor. “May I play the instrument once more before it is consigned to silence?”

      Permission was granted and the great musician began to play. The violin sang out a quality of music so beautiful that the collector himself could only listen in wonderment. “I have no right to keep that to myself,” he said after the musician finished. “The violin is yours, Mr. Kreisler. Take it into world, and let people hear it.”

      William Arthur Ward said, “If you believe in prayer, pray; if you believe in serving, serve; if you believe in giving, give.” For you and I are exquisite violins — our music is meant to be heard.

      I want to live my life that way — to take it into the world and live it fully. I'd rather burn out than rust out. I'd rather be used up than die not having done whatever I could…wherever I would.I'm not talking about wearing ourselves out on over-activity. Happiness is never found in excessive busyness. But it is found in investing our lives in others. Saying YES when asked for a hand. Volunteering some time for a worthwhile organization. Spending an hour with a lonely relative.

      In the end, I know that my happiness will not have been about by my ability or my inability. It will have been about my availability. My life is meant to be lived.

    • #57086
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      Stress: that confusion created when ones mind overrides the body’s basic desire to choke the living shyte outa Sum a$$(&*^80 who deserves it

    • #57087
      vchenoah
      Participant
      Quote:
      Stress: that confusion created when ones mind overrides the body’s basic desire to choke the living shyte outa Sum a$$(&*^80 who deserves it

      * looooong exhale* Aaaahh yes. Make it so!

    • #57088
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      Oye whose stresssin u NessLemme @ em …

    • #57089
      vchenoah
      Participant

      *big grin* No worries, but thanks for the back. Smile

      It's just a speck of sand in the eye, nothing more. Smile Sooner or later it gets washed away, yes?

    • #57090
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      (Hides the pail of water behind his back) Nessa, I can get the 'speck of sand' out faster than 'sooner…' Stick out tongue

    • #57091
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:

      letz gooo scarry….

      A thought:

      it amazes me how people who aren't even related to you can care wayyy more than your own blood…in fact, your own fam. can be against you and support you not…and certain friends for example are ready to go through everything with you…no matter how harsh…

      Smile

      Smile I love you, habeebi. Right Hug

    • #57092
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      I love you too buddy Smile

      stay smiling…stay awesome!

    • #57093
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      I don't like how easily some people allow others to influence them and lead them to do things which may not be accepted by anyone, but just the mere fact that 'everyone does it' makes it “okay”. I believe that you should be your own leader, lead yourself according to the way you were raised and how you see things.. your own values, your perspective…you know what's right and what's wrong. It's great to be unique and people might see you as weird and psycho, but hey, they don't even know what they're doing anymore Wink. Standing out is awesome. We all have brains so i think we should start using them, no? BE WHO YOU WANNA BE, NOT WHAT OTHERS WANT YOU TO BECOME!!!

      OKIE IM DONE =D

    • #57094
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Erm Ninja? Was there any twitching involved with the above post? Lol. But, well said. Too many people pleasers and approval addicts that we no longer know who people really are sometimes. So, unique (weird and psycho) huh? Lmao!

    • #57095
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Ji, you seem very concerned of this twitching that is going on

      What exactly did yummin say about…this twitching?

    • #57096
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Oh no! We should not be talking about this. That is exactly how the twitching starts…and the stares. You should be talking to Rani ji. Apparently she knows, at least that's what Ninja says.

    • #57097
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      lmao…no twitching..no staring, im all cool now.

    • #57098
      Marine
      Participant
      Quote:

      *big grin* No worries, but thanks for the back. Smile

      It's just a speck of sand in the eye, nothing more. Smile Sooner or later it gets washed away, yes?

      Children Playing Scratching Waxy

    • #57099
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      Life is one long want,

      from the womb to the tomb

      the mind is taken up with wants

      milk from the ***, the grabbing for attention,

      from crawlin to sprawlin in the form,

      the rising wants in the teens,

      when urges fog the mind

      but make clear the kind

      of want the body craves,

      the want cries loud when the wedding bells becomes a distant chime

      and you change partners in midstream, only

      to find the boat so rocked

      it washed away the creme of romance

      brought over from the wants of youth.

      life drifts on into age,

      and still u want.

      WHAT??

      anuther man???anuther woman??

      anuther fwend?? DEATH, the end???

      sadly the mind does not age with the body;

      we want until the final breath.

      if only we cud learn to WAIT instead of want…..

    • #57100
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      Quote:

      Life is one long want,

      from the womb to the tomb

      …….

      if only we cud learn to WAIT instead of want…..

      Great thoughts Scarry Smile

    • #57101
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Alie, I agree with Ninja. You got me thinking for a long time.

    • #57102
      Mukesh
      Keymaster

      hmmmmm care to share those thoughts Jalapeno?

      gud to see **my** words/posts appreciated…i think??

    • #57103
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      I think i should just go in a coma for a few years….!

    • #57104
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Hmm, that IS an odd thought (Imagine Chandler Bing saying it, because that is exactly how its supposed to sound).

    • #57105
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      it's not odd…me thinks.

      or perhaps it may sound so…who cares. =P its a thought that went through my head =D

    • #57106
      Marine
      Participant

      wow that really got me thinking thats why the saying is good that goes like this and i agree with it cause its all bout wants.

      we want things that we don't need

      with the money that we don't have

      yet what do we do

      we buy it anyways

      cause the want is stronger then the need

      When we are kids we get all that we want

      parents don't care if we need then

      we want it thats enough for them to work hard and get it for us

      yes when we reach the age of 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55,

      and our kids want thing they don't we think about it

      do they really need it? NO but we get it anyways.

      and also with us

      we can barely afford to live in this world with hardness of money.

      Yes we continue

      TO WANT HINGS WE DON'T NEED
      WITH THE MONEY WE DON'T GOT

    • #57107
      vchenoah
      Participant

      Cuidado Mari mia!!! Ur maturity is beginning to show! WinkRight HugBig Smile

    • #57108
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      MArine, where did you get those words from

      Its true………… all of these thoughts

    • #57109
      Marine
      Participant

      Thanks you guys but its just something that came from the heartexcept from the part that says we want what we don't need

      with the money we don't have

      it my old bosses saying

      Ness wow its really begining i'm so glad someone can see it lol

      by the way a phsychic said that i'm getting married this year Ick!

    • #57110
      serioComic
      Participant

      u got that rite marine life…puke all u want. must be an amateur psychic

    • #57111
      vchenoah
      Participant
      Quote:

      by the way a phsychic said that i'm getting married this year Ick!

      For reals??? Maaaaaaaaaannnn, poor guy… Sad

    • #57112
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Marine are you serious about that psychic???! Omg..

      Do you believe psychics ..? How do they tell you though..? What did they do? Look at your palm?

    • #57113
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      pyschics are ghey.

    • #57114
      Marine
      Participant

      lol i don't believe it to much cause i'mnot going to get married but then you never know hehehehehe

    • #57115
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      that's the thing…

      we never really know. true! we can plan all we want, we can go to psychics, work hard, set everything right…and then it goes differently. nd it's all for a reason. we can see it as unfair and wrong, but it's actually for the best. Smile

      … i dunno what i'm talking about Tongue Tied sorry.

    • #57116
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Ninja, that made perfect sense to me.

    • #57117
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Wait wait, Marine: how did she read your future???? Did she just look at you?? Or she look at yr palm or something?

      Well Marine… dont think about what thepsychic said > just do what you feel like doing.

    • #57118
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      A self-promoting psychic once offered to read my palm for a rupee and tell me my future. I told him that I would give him two rupees if he could tell me what happened yesterday. Funny, how they can 'see' your future, but cannot 'see' your past. Very convenient, since we cannot contest their narrative of our future. I am quite content that my future is in God's hands. Moreover, on most days I can barely deal with the 'past' and the 'present.' Who on God's green earth has the time to worry about tomorrow. Sheesh! People who live in the past barely enjoy their present and rarely enjoy their future. People who worry about their future squander many an opportunity in the present and then realize they've compromised the 'future' with which they had been so fixated.

    • #57119
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      the latter part of yr ramblings makes a lot of sense, common sense that most humans lack, good to see there are a few out there who

      *practices* the art of thinking, being all philosophical, true to a certain extent in the above verse, tell me, did all of those words come off straight from your pretty head or did u steal this from somewhere??

      Just checking..

      *my thoughts:

      are harmoniously centred around my love and family and life and people and friends and lost loved ones and just about everything, everyone and anything, my thoughts are reminiscing the photographic memories captured through many years of beautiful memories cherished through experience, experience that was granted in abundance to me..which is immensely appreciated…*

    • #57120
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      More to think about:

      Some things are beyond planning.

      And life doesn't always turn out as planned.

      You don't plan for a broken heart.

      You don't plan for a failed business venture.

      You don't plan for an adulterous husband.

      or a wife who wants you out of her life.

      You don't plan for an autistic child.

      You don't plan for spinsterhood.

      You don't plan for a lump in your ***.

      You plan to be young forever.

      You plan to climb the corporate ladder.

      You plan to be rich and powerful.

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    • #57121
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      beautiful thoughts =)

    • #57122
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Didi – I agree with Ninja.

      Ali I agree with your thoughts about Senor J last post up there. Im a person who says that everything will happen in the future. What he said may turn out to be so true. I better start living for the present and stop pushing everything off and saying its going to happen in the future and not now.

    • #57123
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      lol..hmm okay…

      wat time is it there??

    • #57124
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Dii ! Hiiii ! Its 8:35AM here now. There? My mom woke me up early so that my dad can teach me to drive…so Im back home now thank goodness.

    • #57125
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      Jeez dats a bit too early for a driving lesson hey..how r u??

      Its approx 14.40pm here..

      Good to see Ranz online at the same time in a lonnnng time

      and yumz too off coz:)

    • #57126
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Well, mom woke me up around 6:45am the reason being because Im a scared and shaky (new) driver : today was my 5th time driving anywhere and since today is Sunday: the traffic (really early) today especially is little>and then I dont have to get extremely jumpy everytime I see cars from the corner of my eyes!

      Im alright – glad to be home here now and glad to see you, ninja and Rani online. 14:40 is 2:40 right? (just making sure)

    • #57127
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      hmm correct..well 3.00pm now 🙂

      wow, congrats my dear, 5th lesson…at least u made it that far hey

      sooo how does it feel..being the force behind such power?? ie driving?

    • #57128
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      5th lesson : driving is still scary to me and my dad has to keep telling me to go on to go on and drive after I see cars in the corner of my eyes. But I got better! The first 2 times I drove: it was at a park and my dad let me drive around in circles and everytime I saw a car I dont care how far away it was I'd go to a full stop, just sit there and stare into space like if something bad will happen if i only tip the gas. To think of it, thats kinda funny.. .or maybe not(where Im concerned) Embarrassed

    • #57129
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:
      Good to see Ranz online at the same time in a lonnnng time

      Smile How are you? Right Hug

    • #57130
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      Kavz, WAAAAH?? me no understand, but dis kewl …Stick out tongue

      Its sooo quiet and peaceful, well exception to my music…salaaam namaste..lol

      ranz, am well thanksRight Hug, hope ur the same too??

    • #57131
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Alright, lets make it short. Me driving = scary + shaky Smile

      Ah ! I feel like listening to Salaam from Umrao Jaan. That song is really nice I like it alot! Hey is it true that preity and saif KISSED in salaam namaste?

    • #57132
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      yup they sure did…

      wats the weather like in Us this fine morning?

    • #57133
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:
      ranz, am well thanksRight Hug, hope ur the same too??

      I'm glad you're feeling good. Left Hug Me? I'm WONDERFUL! Big Smile I haven't felt this good in ages! Smile

    • #57134
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      dats great to hear Ranz..Keep it going strong nah..dnt lose the feeling:-)

      it feels soo gud to see u online, been a while huh?

    • #57135
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      awwww. Smile Yeah, it has been a while since I could log on in peace. Smile I see that you are drawn to this place as is every member. Smile

    • #57136
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      yoh?? u on abishels arms???? woaahhh and were is Aishwarya ???

      kidding love…

      drawn to this place?? nope …theres a reason behind every action…

      but I do love u guys a lot and miss talking to everyone at once ..haha

    • #57137
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      You're not drawn to this place? Surprise i'm surprised…

      Aishwarya who?

      Abhishek is so darned se.xiful. *sigh*

    • #57138
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      lol u remind me of my fwend V…sooo ABISHEK craze she was that chicka

      hmmm nope hun, the fascination of this place, never ceases to amaze me..but am not drawn to it ..not like I used to be when Nitz was around..Gosh that dude made me laff sooo much I thot I wud die laffing at his attempts to irritate/belittle people…

      I do miss him and Cosmic ..and Mara too..

      havent spoken to her in a while …

    • #57139
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      hmmm…why does it always have to be a guy that draws one to a certain place or feeling…lol

      Send them all an email, na? Smile

    • #57140
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      roflmao ohhhh rannnnzzz

      sweety now Nitz will certainly believe all my love crazed postings for him hahahaa

      no hun, its not the GUY(S) its the fight!!!!

      Email??? lol…nope..but thanks for the suggestion…

      and its the magical experience of relating to many people u havent seen yet share a

      bond with..thats wat drew me to this place…

    • #57141
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:
      no hun, its not the GUY(S) its the fight!!!!

      either way, the guys are part of it, na? Stick out tongue

      I know what you mean about the bond sharing…I love this place. Smile

    • #57142
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      hmm yup the guys are a part of it…

      I was in a * really low phase * when i joined this place last year..

      just fighting with them helped me in many ways..hahaha

      sigh………

    • #57143
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      There are 4 things one cannot recover

      • the stone after the throw
      • THE WORD AFTER ITS SAID
      • The occasion after the loss
      • The time after its gone

    • #57144
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      last one made me sighhhhh

      yet, we don't seem to take advantage of the time WE DO HAVE, right?!

    • #57145
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      Oohhhhhhhh my gosh, I look like a victim of abuse, physical abuseL

      My hands are covered in burns resulting from my attempt to cook, clean the kitchen, load the washer, and

      answer the fone…

      hahaha I erhmmm was sprayed by heated cooking oil…..and I didn’t even scream out in pain..Now my hands look like I have a husband who loves decorating parts of my erhmm anatomy with the burning end (yeah I can’t remember what it’s called) of his cigar Am only writing about it coz I got this really loud exclamation from a colleague in the ladies room just a few minutes ago, she began whispering to me that I should be stronger and that she will keep me in her prayer..I just laughed soo loudly she probably thought I was nutz…nothing new though.. I couldn’t even respond to her..

      First: Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee MARRIED????????? ( I FEEL FAINT AGAIN )

      Second: Do I look like a woman who will ALLOW such treatment from ANY man??

      Third: Am still trying to get over the first point….

      Fourth: Am actually thinking seriously now about this.’
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    • #57146
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Oh my didi! Are you alright?! Be careful !!

      Oh man…they think you're being abused? lol..by a guy? you? ahahahhaaa.. i dont see thta happening .. *woman power* *high five man!*

      you pregnant? lol and how did they come to such crazed conclusion? ? ?

      btw… “decorating parts of my anatomy” reminds me of *ahem* a certain person and you *ahem* *chokes*

      *with laughter*

    • #57147
      kavita_0026
      Participant
      Quote:

      You're not drawn to this place? Surprise i'm surprised…

      Aishwarya who?

      Abhishek is so darned se.xiful. *sigh*

      Rani you didnt get over this yet? Big Smile Aishwariya… *ahem* his wife

    • #57148
      kavita_0026
      Participant
      Quote:

      hmm yup the guys are a part of it…

      I was in a * really low phase * when i joined this place last year..

      just fighting with them helped me in many ways..hahaha

      sigh………

      i dont know when what happened..happened..but..i met you here..really hating MEN ..and always saying bad stuff…

      you've shown a large improvement

    • #57149
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      Confidence – Trust – Hope

      CONFIDENCE:

      Once all village people decided to pray for rain. On the day of prayer all people gathered and

      only one boy came with an umbrella…. .. that's
      Confidence.. ………


      TRUST:

      Trust should be like the feeling of a one year old baby when you throw him in the air, he

      laughs…..because he knows you will catch him…….. that’s
      Trust…………



      HOPE:

      Every night we go to bed, we have no assurance to get up alive in the next morning

      but still we have plans for the coming day……….that’s
      Hope…….…

    • #57150
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      True.

    • #57151
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      DORMITORY:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      DIRTY ROOM

      PRESBYTERIAN:
      When you rearrange the letters:
      BEST IN PRAYER

      ASTRONOMER:
      When you rearrange the letters:
      MOON STARER

      DESPERATION:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      A ROPE ENDS IT

      THE EYES:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      THEY SEE

      GEORGE BUSH:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      HE BUGS GORE


      GAUTENG:

      When you rearrange the letters:

      GET A GUN

      THE MORSE CODE:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      HERE COME DOTS

      SLOT MACHINES:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      CASH LOST IN ME

      ANIMOSITY:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      IS NO AMITY

      ELECTION RESULTS:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      LIES – LET'S RECOUNT

      SNOOZE ALARMS:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      ALAS! NO MORE Z 'S

      A DECIMAL POINT:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      IM A DOT IN PLACE

      THE EARTHQUAKES:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      THAT *** SHAKE

      ELEVEN PLUS TWO:
      When you rearrange the letters:

      TWELVE PLUS ONE

      AND FOR THE GRAND FINALE:<font face="Arial Narrow" color="#

    • #57152
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:
      Quote:

      hmm yup the guys are a part of it…

      I was in a * really low phase * when i joined this place last year..

      just fighting with them helped me in many ways..hahaha

      sigh………

      i dont know when what happened..happened..but..i met you here..really hating MEN ..and always saying bad stuff…

      you've shown a large improvement

      waaaaahhh?? since when??????????

      am STILL saying bad stuff…especially bout Men

      lol…

      I KNOW I sound like a man hater…but am not..am just very erhmmm NOT 🙂 a man hater gosh!!!!

      me luws em…**winks**

    • #57153
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:

      Oh my didi! Are you alright?! Be careful !!

      Oh man…they think you're being abused?

      Yup..

      lol..by a guy?

      Rephrase…MY HUSBAND ..***FAINTS***

      you?

      exactly …me?? am as amazed as u are

      ahahahhaaa.. i dont see thta happening

      it better not..am not really a physically voilent person..well am not voilent at all..but should any guy attempt any act of abuse on me….

      well …theres gonna be WAR..

      .. *woman power* *high five man!*

      sigh…**HIGH FIVES KAVS**

      you pregnant?

      oh yeah I forgot to mention that part to u guys, dat explains all the cravings I have

      lol and how did they come to such crazed conclusion? ? ?

      hmmm am not sure…everyone wants to see me married with kids u see..so am thinking its like a daliy prayer or sums..

      hahaha ..no clue…its the way my lil community of people are…especially this neighbour …(sigh)

      it was hillarious for me but u shud've heard my mum though, ready to kick a$$ on my behalf coz my name was

      used in vain hahaha…lol.. me miss her 🙁

      argh pettiness..

    • #57154
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      The life thoughts were so true! And the rearranged letters thing was amazing! Im stealing that and emailing it out!

      Ahhhhhhhh everyone wants u to get married ?/ but do u want to get married? ..and what is this thing with kids ? ..that hot dude the other day made u melt when he was being so nice to the kids around … looks like its not other people dreams for u to get married and have kids..they are also yr own dreams? kids are heavenly no one should ever hurt them

    • #57155
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:

      The life thoughts were so true! And the rearranged letters thing was amazing! Im stealing that and emailing it out!

      no prob:)

      Ahhhhhhhh everyone wants u to get married ?/

      my sarcasm madam …

      but do u want to get married?

      hmmmmmmm…maaaybeeee..am not sure…erhmmmm NO!! not interested

      ..and what is this thing with kids ? ..that hot dude the other day made u melt when he was being so nice to the kids around … looks like its not other people dreams for u to get married and have kids..they are also yr own dreams?

      having /adopting KIDS yes!!!

      kids are heavenly no one should ever hurt them

      i agree

    • #57156
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      A friend is a tender shoulder
      On which to softly cry
      A well to pour your troubles down
      And raise your spirits high

      A friend is a hand to pull you up
      From darkness and despair…
      When all your other “so called” friends
      Have helped to put you there

      A true friend is an ally
      Who can't be moved or bought
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      A voice to keep your name alive
      When others have forgot

      But most of all a friend has a true heart
      For from the hearts of friends
      There comes the greatest love of all!!!

      So think about all this
      For every word is true
      And once again answer please…
      How many friends have you??

    • #57157
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      So from what im hearing.. you're dreaming of getting married.. having a wonderful wedding with a wonderful dude ..who is nice to yr children (and you if i may mention it) … but you 're not interested in marriage? … i think i got it..you need some more time hmm..well all i can say is take that time..really understand everything i wish time could just wait on us sometimes ..you know?

      love you mwahssssssssss

    • #57158
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:

      So from what im hearing.. you're dreaming of getting married.. having a wonderful wedding with a wonderful dude .

      ( SOWRIE HAD TO LAFF OUT CRAZILY HERE…WONDER IS A WORD ON ITS OWN..SHRUGS…MORE LIKE POOOR DUDE )

      .who is nice to yr children (and you if i may mention it) … but you 're not interested in marriage? … i think i got it..you need some more time hmm..well all i can say is take that time..really understand everything i wish time could just wait on us sometimes ..you know?

      love you mwahssssssssss

      Huney buney, pumkin pie, lets discuss this off the forum okay love??

      Am too tired and pre-occupied with things to be thinking of marriage right nowJ

      ThanksJ

      Love ya

      Di

    • #57159
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Poor dude? Amen! Lmao!

    • #57160
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:

      Poor dude? Amen! Zip it! Lmao! Confused

      my thoughts are centred around death..the inevitable plunge into whatever is on the other side..

    • #57161
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Please don't die, Im watching the Bangladesh Vs. Windies match…well, it just ended. Windies are out. I haven't seen you yet. Darn chopper, pass by again sheesh.

    • #57162
      vchenoah
      Participant
      Quote:
      my thoughts are centred around death..the inevitable plunge into whatever is on the other side..

      Oh my…macabre much?

    • #57163
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      Nope, death isn’t macabre, it’s more a release

      Like love, it sumtimes rushes in without notice

      Then theres the rare occasion where it makes a call,

      Books an appointment, then approaches..

    • #57164
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      its just a lil sums i thought to share with u all and i am sooo loving this font, it feels personal sorta:)

      enjoy!!!

      F ai th ma ke s a ll th in gs po <span style="FONT-SIZE:28pt;COLOR:green;FONT-FAMILY:'Script MT Bold

    • #57165
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Aw diiii… very inspiring!

      What up guys?!

      Senor DUDE what up? *ahem*

      WINKS AT SCARRY

      *AHEM*

    • #57166
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      The Euro. Interest rates. Inflation. The DOW (Yay!).

    • #57167
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Huh????? Me lost man.. you gotta make it easy for the slow one

    • #57168
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I GET ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

      YOU MEAN THOSE THINGS ARE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!

      YEAH – IT TAKES ME A LIL WHILE TO GET STUFF SOMETIMES LOL

      Hmm what about your heart rate? Aint that up too ? *ahem* alright… if you say no , i shall not object —> I dont see alisha here at the moment.

      *RUNS AWAY mad fast* lol

      ** TRIPS***

      darn lol

    • #57169
      vchenoah
      Participant

      Baaaahahahahahahahahaha! Veeery good one Kava Daba! The heart rate joke, I mean.

      *guffaw* And you trip no less! rotflmbobo! man oh man!

    • #57170
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      *laughs uncontrollably*

    • #57171
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:

      Hmm what about your heart rate? Aint that up too ?

      duh, wud all dat realllllly moutherwatering food he cooks off coz his heart rate is goin banana's, i mean bonkers

      *ahem* alright… if you say no , i shall not object —> I dont see alisha here at the moment.

      woah back up a bit there darlin..meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee??? dats incest dear!!!

      why wud anyone's heartrate go funny in my presence??

      haveye seen the man blownin steam when Ness is around??? ..

      just browse em other threads..dnt include me in dis

      nasssteee biz of yers…

      *RUNS AWAY mad fast* lol

      u better be running..cuz when i catchye…u gonna be soooo sowrie

      ** TRIPS***

      ooppssss **picks up kavs** sowrie jaan didnt mean to scareye lol

      darn lol

      I dnt think its funny at alll **thumbs crosssed at back**** lmao

    • #57172
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:

      Baaaahahahahahahahahaha! Veeery good one Kava Daba! The heart rate joke, I mean.

      *guffaw* And you trip no less! rotflmbobo! man oh man!

      sowrie to burst yr lil bubble of delights Ness & kavi..

      the truth be told

      Scarry has no magic to make anyone's heart beat do triples …its a sad fact…

    • #57173
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      A STAB OF THE KNIFE

      A GASH

      OPENED SO WIDE

      SALTED

      AND BURNT

      MY PRIDE

      AS I FELT MY DIGNITY

      SLIDE

      EVERYTHING ELSE

      ABOUT ME

      D

      I

      E

      D

      …I feel pain, I feel nothing but!!!!

      i feeel shallow

      when will my heart shut

      shut out shut out

      these feelings of shame

      of pain…

    • #57174
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      hmmmmm….makes me think!!

      Doing more than is expected, to make another's life a little more bearable,
      without uttering a single complaint

      ..is Compassion.


    • #57175
      Yemenilicious
      Participant
      Quote:

      hmmmmm….makes me think!!

      Doing more than is expected, to make another's life a little more bearable,
      without uttering a single complaint

      ..is Compassion.


      Agreed!

    • #57176
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      Oh my Gosh!! My friend Soms had just sent me an email informing me of the birth of her baby girl.

      She names her FIONA, and the email was accompanied by

      2 cute fotos of a month old fi ( my nic for her as @ this mo) omw..I almost fainted I cant believe this..

      madam sends me an invite for her weddin in nov last year

      off coz she is in Delhi ( i think ) lol, we have been friends since I was in High school hahaha and she is like 38 now I think …

      off coz I was busy getting ready to move here and all my $$ was invested soo me cudnt go 🙁

      now almost a year she shocks me with this amazing news …

      gosh i wish I cud share baby fi's pics with u guys..she is sooo damn cute

      lemme describe…

      in the 1st pic..she has her mouth in the ohhh..lol an a cute sly smile..

      2nd pic..she luks like she doesnt want to be captured on camera, a lil frown on her face, but still theres a slight smile

      he eyes are gorgeous, blackest black, like lil coals and her nose is soo adorable I wanna run my fingers along it

      her lips are soft and even this i wanna touch, to see her reaction

      her hair is ..myy she has a lot of hair for a month old kid

      and her cheeks ohmygod…i wanna kiss her, then just place my face on her an sort brush her face with mine..have u ever done that on a kids skin,,,my word, their skin is super soft and feels like silk

      aaawwww am just soooo kush i cud cry but the rivers are dry today hahaha

      love ..babies

      I

      want

      a

      baby

      🙂

      well

      lots

      of babie….like fi

    • #57177
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      “There are three types of people in this world: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who wonder what happened. We all have a choice. You can decide which type of person you want to be.

    • #57178
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      Dare to Dream…

      You may get a lot of negative
      feedback from others,
      and so much happens in life
      to block the road you wish to travel.
      But you must dream anyway
      and cherish your dreams
      as they come from your soul
      and are the blueprint
      of who you are.
      What's more, they represent
      the direction you should take on earth.

      Let your heart set your goals
      and remain dedicated to them.

    • #57179
      Yemenilicious
      Participant

      Scarry- Smile

      another thought….

      The constant shower of the sun's mane
      will erase the remaining footprints on the thin ice.
      Don't be afraid when you are deceived
      for the world is already full of deception.

    • #57180
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:

      another thought….

      The constant shower of the sun's mane
      will erase the remaining footprints on the thin ice.
      Don't be afraid when you are deceived
      for the world is already full of deception

      hmmmmm ….hmmmmm…hmmmmmmm

      sigh!! hw can sooo few ppl create or change this world ??

      my thought….how??

      I try in lil ways..

    • #57181
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

    • #57182
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      LIFE IS A WASTE OF TIME AND TIME IS A WASTE OF LIFE

      GET WASTED ALL THE TIME AND HAVE THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE.

    • #57183
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      *HOW TO HANDLE IRRITATING SEATMATES ON AN AIRPLANE*

      If you are sitting next to someone who irritates you, follow these

      instructions:

      1. Quietly and calmly open up your laptop case.

      2. Remove your laptop.

      3. Start up.

      4. *Make sure* the guy who is annoying you, can see the screen.

      5. Close your eyes.

      6. Tilt your head up to the sky.

      7. Move your lips as if praying.

      8. Then hit this link

      http://boortz.com/mp3/archive/countdown.swf

    • #57184
      boo
      Participant

      Alie!! Lmao… that is… lol!

      I was chatting to my friend of GTalk… and I told him I was on the aeroplane and talking to him… lol, I was due to leave for a flight journey anyway so I pretended I was on the plane (when actually, I was still at home… lol) and said “Hi!” to him…. and he promptly asked me to check out the link… and laughed. Haha… crazy guy. 🙂

    • #57185
      doowyllob
      Participant

      I wonder why most wars fought during the history of mankind have been in the name of religion?

      And I wonder when was it the very last time that a war in the name of religion was fought?

      Also wars based on religion, how many types / categories are there?

    • #57186
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      Excellent question forum name in reverse! I guess when folks feel that strongly about something, in this case, religion, they feel the need to 'infidel' anyone that does not subscribe to their neck of the woods and slaughter them in the name of whoever it is they offer their prayers to, which I seriously suspect are being received.

      I have never killed literally or figuratively anyone for religion. However, I am quite willing to kill and be killed for coffee, cricket and as of the moment, a steaming hot Caramel Macchiato.

    • #57187
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:
      have never killed literally or figuratively anyone for religion. However, I am quite willing to kill and be killed for coffee, cricket and as of the moment, a steaming hot Caramel Macchiato

      Stick out tongue hmmmm raging wars in yr household…

    • #57188
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant
      Quote:

      I wonder why most wars fought during the history of mankind have been in the name of religion?

      And I wonder when was it the very last time that a war in the name of religion was fought?

      Also wars based on religion, how many types / categories are there?

      hmmmmmmm

      **thinks********

    • #57189
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      Thank u E…I love u unconditionally Mama Ez…yr contribution an presen(t)ce in my life is appreciated in abundance….U may never get to see this decalration..but I KNW & believe u FEEL my love…

      Perfecto Thought for the week….

      **my personal feeling at this moment… ** a feeling of immense gratitude and love**

      xxx xxx xxx xxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxx

      When you search for me, you will find me; when you search wholeheartedly for me, I shall let you find me” (Jer 29: 13)

      Deep within us is a place where we have found God and God has found us. Once in a great while we come to this place within us and we realise it is the goal of our seeking. It feels like home. It is a place of safety and security, an ideal home where we can be ourselves and know that we are accepted for who we are.

      Thomas Merton wrote that when we find our true self we find God, and when we find God we find our true self. Whenever we come to a greater truth about ourselves, we enter this ideal home. However, our hearts and minds are easily distracted by many other things, everyday realities such as work, maintaining a physical home, raising a family, shopping for life’s necessities. As much as we yearn to stay closely connected with this inner source we quickly lose our sense of it. Thus, we spend most of our lives seeking what we momentarily find and then lose it again.

      Most of the time we search without really being aware of what is gnawing at us deep inside. We search for something called happiness. We long for a gift named peace. We search for meaning in our lives, for love, for understanding of ourselves and others, for an acceptance of the ups and downs of the human condition. We may not be consciously aware of our seeking. We may be living our lives day by day. The wonder is that while this searching goes on within us, there is also One who keeps seeking us out, calling to us, greatly desiring that we may find the home within.

      The Beloved One is ever near. It is ironic that we search for God, when the Divine dwells deep within us, pervading our soul. The seeking and finding that we do is actually a discovery of a truth already present.

      May you be blessed this week as you search for the truth within, for the One who dwells most intimately within you.

      With my love and prayers

      alishia

      ps: beautiful indeed!!

    • #57190
      MaMa PeGaSuS
      Participant

      **

      'Freedom' is but another word for 'God.' It has been

      difficult to find words in human language to describe

      That Which God Is, but 'Freedom' is one of them.

      Another word to describe God is…You.

      You and God are One. Therefore you, too, are Free.

      Free to make choices, free to select your reactions

      and responses to life, free to be your authentic Self.**

      -from cwg triogy

    • #57191
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Just a thought…

      A few weeks before school ended, we were talking about something in my political science class, I wasn't listening so I don't remember what it was about, but I heard the guy behind me say “If Jesus – if God will punish them, then why do we need a death sentence?” I don't remember exactly, but he said something close to that. And then, the guy (he's white) sitting to my right said “Jesus was Mexican!” And then, the guy sitting to my left (also white) said angrily “JESUS WAS WHITE!” And then the guy sitting to my right said (kinda in an “uh oh” way) “I was just kidding, man, I know he's white” And then they both high-fived each other and grinned.

      I was disgusted. It was like a “We're so superior to nonwhites cuz we're white and God is white.” Ick!

      I don't understand how people who aren't white can worship Jesus (PBUH) as God or the son of God. Doesn't it make them feel inferior? Why would God have a color? And if He did, why would He give that same color to certain people and not to others? It just doesn't make sense to me.

    • #57192
      Unique_Princess
      Participant

      Exactly. This reminds me of when I was studying the Slavery period in my Gender, Race and Empire class while I was at university. Jesus (PBUH) in all literature I studied for this class was depicted as white. Even in accounts from Black narratives they accepted God as white. I learnt this was due to the assumed notion of whiteness and light being a form of purity, hence its connotations with God. The black slaves were made to feel inferior and religion was used as a tool to opress them further, as a white God was giving orders to a white master. It was horrific. I don't get this either… Why would God have a colour? We are all equal for Him, no matter what we look like!

    • #57193
      boo
      Participant

      Human beings are greedy people. Greedy in the sense that they put themselves first.

      Even when we do things for the benefit of others, we can't deny that we get a kick out of knowing that we have made a difference to someone else's life.

      I'm not saying that this is necessarily a bad thing, but a… thing. Y'know?

      Today, I found out that an old childhood friend's sister passed away on the 4th of February… my first thought was of horror for what my friend must be going through, and my immediate second thought was the insane hell I would face if my sister were to pass away… *touchwood* she doesn't…

      Death fascinates me… whenever we hear of a death that is not related to us by about a degree or two of separation, we always feel sorry and sad for what happened, but there is always a part of us that is grateful that it has not happened to us… thankful that we are not in their place.

      I was thinking the other day about dying (haha, not seriously thinking about killing myself but yeah… you'll see what I mean…)… not as a means of venting out my depression or ending my life for other such reasons, but because I thought about how pointless life is. I mean, we go out, we have a good time… then the good times end and it's back to work, and then we go out again and so the cycle goes… and I just thought, “Why are we doing this? Why are we even living?”

      I keep thinking there must be more to life than this, but then I realise that I know pathetically little about what is already there in this world. I don't know how the hell mountains form, or why there is so much chaos in the Middle East, or how the science that I see jumping around me every day works, or how the internet came about or what it is that's so fantastic about Shakespeare and Ghalib or whether Karan Johar is really gay or not or… hell, anything. And then I think, only when I can say I understand everything about life, can I begin to even think of death as an option… you can't try something til you've knocked it, as they say. I then think I have no right to complain about life because although I've seen and lived through what seems to me more than my own fair share of what people say “This is life”, it is just one person's viewpoint through part of one person's lifetime. And I have so much more about Life – as an entity of its own and as a breathing character within us – to learn, to be able to judge it either way and say it's pointless or point-full.

      But then, I think, am I not a human being? Am I not allowed an opinion, regardless of my lack of education on the topic? Because – as my history teacher once told me – every voice has something to contribute… every thought and every opinion, will teach you that little bit more, will show you a fresh perspective you may never have thought of. And it's true – the very fact that I have an opinion (however 'wrong' or 'right' it is, and however 'educated' or 'uneducated' it may be…) shows that there is a reason why I have voiced out about this, it shows that there is something there causing me to think about this, and I find that so fascinating.

      I then realised the trick is to not let your opinions get in the way of your learning. Yes, you can have an opinion, but be ready to challenge it, be ready to look at the other person's viewpoint, and not let your own ideas based on your own experiences cloud the other trains of thought you're riding on. I have done this myself on several occasions, and I am so grateful I have. Having an opinion is good in the sense that it keeps your mind thinking and ticking, but you also have to realise that other viewpoints are an opportunity for you to learn and grow. You have to realise that your opinion may change, as time and circumstances change.

    • #57194
      scarface
      Participant

      am not even sure where to begin Boo.. thanks for the thought provoking thoughts u have here..as usual yr ability to snatch wats deep within is flawless..have always told u…

      Pls write more…I love reading yr thoughts…especially at times when mine seem to tumble over each other at war to reach the outskirts of my paper/computer…wateva ..lol

      I MISS U. Hope ur keeping well..take care and remain as intruiging as always..

      love

      mee

    • #57195
      scarface
      Participant

      I FORGOT…
      I forgot what life is all about …
      I forgot what it meant to cry …
      I forgot that pretending to be happy
      Doesn't make you happy …
      And that pretending to be smart
      Doesn't make you smart …
      I forgot that you can't just forget the past
      In fear of the future …

      I forgot that you can't control
      Falling in love .
      And if you really do fall in love,
      Then you can't make yourself fall
      OUT of love ..

      I learned that I can love ….

      I learned that it's okay to mess up ..
      And it's okay to ask for help .
      And it's okay to feel like hell .
      I learned it's okay to complain and whine
      To all your friends for a whole day …

      I've learnt that sometimes the things
      You want most,
      You just can't have.
      I've learnt that the greatest thing
      About life isn't the parties or the hook-ups …..

      I've learnt that sometimes,
      The things we want to forget,
      Are the things that
      We most need to talk about …
      But basically,
      I've just learnt that my family
      And old friends ( AN NEW )
      Are the most important people to me
      In the entire world …
      AND ..
      Without them,
      I wouldn't be who I am today ….

      Dream as if u will live forever…
      Live as if u will die today…

    • #57196
      johselyn
      Participant

      No matter if you do not believe in God, God believes in you !!!Wink

      Yuo can say: Gott , Allah, ilah, God. Is the same!!Cool

    • #57197
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Thats right sister!

      Call God Jesus, God, Allah, Rama, Jehova or whichever name you may!

      God is all one!!!

      And I am sure that God is very upset that people are fighting over his different 'forms' and not realizing that

      we are all one!

    • #57198
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Di, I know all that came straight from that kind heart of yours.

      Sending you an infinite amount of hugs… to get you through.

      And, yes! Its PERFECTLY fine to 'complain and whine' to your friends about anything…anything at all

      Its okay to feel like hell … and its an amazing feeling when you know that you can fight that hellish feeling away and be happier.

      Love you

      Hugs~

    • #57199
      johselyn
      Participant

      hmmm Youar friends are with you in the bad moments, this is ok!! But I will would like that they are with me when I am happy!Sad

    • #57200
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:

      hmmm Youar friends are with you in the bad moments, this is ok!! But I will would like that they are with me when I am happy!Sad

      Your friends are not with you when you are happy? Por que? Tongue Tied

    • #57201
      johselyn
      Participant

      because they make me sad, I am happy but They aren´t with me!! Tongue Tied

      Woowwww I love your spanish!!!Big Smile

    • #57202
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      lol okay then why do you want them to be with you if you are happy they aren't with you? lolly

      Lol gracias senorita! Big Smile

    • #57203
      johselyn
      Participant

      That is very logical! Gracias, tienes razón!Big Smile

      tienes razón : You´r right!

    • #57204
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      loll de nada! it's a good thing you translated the second bit, i didn't know what razon meant! Big Smile now i know, cuz its mike's super short show! Big Smile

    • #57205
      johselyn
      Participant

      hahaha, Big Smile

      what is mike's super short show ???

    • #57206
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      lol sorry! It's a super short show that they show during commercials on the Disney channel…

    • #57207
      johselyn
      Participant
      Quote:

      lol sorry! It's a super short show that they show during commercials on the Disney channel…

      Ohh I want to see DISNEY CHANNEL!! I hate my tv!!!Stick out tongue

    • #57208
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      lol I don't even have the Disne Channel anymore. You could watch some shows on Youtube though!

    • #57209
      johselyn
      Participant

      ahhaha yes, God idea!! Big Smile

    • #57210
      serioComic
      Participant
      Quote:

      ahhaha yes, God idea!! Big Smile

      its certainly not God's idea…its YOUR lousy idea.

    • #57211
      boo
      Participant

      Hhahahhahaahhahahah!!!! Oreo saab I had a thought yesterday…. you're Saif, and I'm Preity on the forum.. Big Smile And GUESS who gets togetherrrrrrrrrrr in Kal Ho Na Ho…………….. *coochie coo*…. Big Smile Big Smile Hhahahahhhaa…..

      And I LOVE the way this forum hasn't found Mr. Sweet and Charming SRK yet… agar woh yahan hote, toh he would definitely have been our SRK… Big Smile

    • #57212
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Boo – now who is the slow one? Stick out tongue

      Quote:

      Quote:

      ahhaha yes, God idea!! Big Smile

      its certainly not God's idea…its YOUR lousy idea.

      Actually, it was MY lousy idea. Stick out tongue

    • #57213
      boo
      Participant

      My stomach hurts SO frikkin much…. NEVER eat dodgy, burnt food. Ever.

    • #57214
      johselyn
      Participant
      Quote:

      its certainly not God's idea…its YOUR lousy idea.

      hahaha I wrote god idea hahahaha. Big SmileThanks Serio, you are sooooooo cute!! Devil

      But, I always will say: Rani is the bes, I love your idea!! It is A GOD IDEA!!Wink

    • #57215
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:

      Quote:

      its certainly not God's idea…its YOUR lousy idea.

      hahaha I wrote god idea hahahaha. Big SmileThanks Serio, you are sooooooo cute!! Devil

      OMG I thought the same exact thing when I read what he wrote! He is cute, isn't he? He's losing his touch! lmao Big Smile

    • #57216
      johselyn
      Participant

      YES!! hE IS NOT A BAD GUY, he is so cute!! Cooland He don´t hate me, he read everything that I write. SmilehE help me to learn english!!

      I can´t wait for read his answer hahaha Stick out tongue

    • #57217
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      LMAO! Si, yo soy acuerdo, Oreo es MUY lindo! LMAO! El es un muchacho muy helpful! LOL Don't mind my Spanglish (Spanish and English put together)! Big Smile

      Oye hoye, looks like Oreo ji has a new admirer. Wink

    • #57218
      johselyn
      Participant
      Quote:

      LMAO! Si, yo soy acuerdo, Oreo es MUY lindo! LMAO! El es un muchacho muy helpful! LOL Don't mind my Spanglish (Spanish and English put together)! Big Smile

      Oye hoye, looks like Oreo ji has a new admirer. Wink

      Hahah yes I AM his fan!! Stick out tongue….. I like speaking spanglish haha, it is my favourite language.Big Smile…El es un muchacho bueno! . He will want to kill me!! haha

      Helpful : útil, amable Big Smile

      When you want say: I am agree, you have to say: Si, yo estoy de acuerdo Smile. But everybody will understand what you want to say!! Right Hug

    • #57219
      serioComic
      Participant

      the wolf locked his eyes on his young prey…but the air doesn't smell right. he waits and waits…for that perfect moment…but theres too many distractions. the rabbit now wants to learn spanish from the fox and the fox is waiting for the wolf to appear. what a screwed up situation!

      but nothing shall distract the wolf this time. nothing can safe the fox..the end is near…the time is now…revenge is sweet..

      the wabbit better run too!

    • #57220
      boo
      Participant

      *completely lost look on face*

      I knew the forum was a madhouse, but didn't realise we were mad animals too…. Tongue Tied

    • #57221
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Boo – LOLLLLLLL

      Lyn – Spanglish es muy fun!!! chismoso? Si si muchacho bueno! noooo kill only love Wink you are his amor now Wink

      oooooh helpful is util! amable would be kind, si? Oreo es un muchacho muy util! mashaAllah loll

      LOL I said yo soy acuerdo! LMAO okay, yo estoy de acuerdo! Big Smile lol this is fun! gracias! Big Smile Left Hug

      Oreo – The rabbit ain't going nowhere! After reading Twilight, I like wolves Big Smile

    • #57222
      boo
      Participant

      Ohhhhhhh that's what it was?? A Twilight reference? Tongue Tied I can somehow totally NOT imagine Oreo reading the Twilight series….. Tongue Tied But then again – as far as my limited knowledge of that stupid series goes – it does involve like…. eating humans and like… being evil…. and stuff. Tongue Tied

      Big Smile

    • #57223
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

      BOOO YOU ARE SO SLOW! It wasn't a Twilight reference! I just usually find something twilighty about random or everyday stuff! LMAO And I don't think Oreo has touched the twilight books… although he should, some bits remind me of him. Big Smile

      it DOESNT involve eating humans. It involves eating animals

      It DOESNT involve being evil. It involves finding the best in what you percieve to be evil. finding the best in yourself when u see urself as a monster and commiting to that good in you and not letting the “monster” take over

      Imma smack you if you go on about how horrible it is when u haven't even read it! Angry read it first and then call it horrible lol

    • #57224
      scarface
      Participant
      Quote:
      I knew the forum was a madhouse, but didn't realise we were mad animals too

      lol

    • #57225
      scarface
      Participant
      Quote:

      but nothing shall distract the wolf this time. nothing can safe Huh? ( save)the fox..the end is near…the time is now…revenge is sweet..

      the (wabbit )Huh? rabbitbetter run too!

      lol…wabbit sounds sooo cute…like a kid trying to pronounce names..Smile

    • #57226
      boo
      Participant

      Huh…

      RUBBISH BOOKS!!

      Big Smile

      I love annoying my twin. Big Smile

    • #57227
      johselyn
      Participant
      Quote:

      the wolf locked his eyes on his young prey…but the air doesn't smell right. he waits and waits…for that perfect moment…but theres too many distractions. the rabbit now wants to learn spanish from the fox and the fox is waiting for the wolf to appear. what a screwed up situation!

      but nothing shall distract the wolf this time. nothing can safe the fox..the end is near…the time is now…revenge is sweet..

      the wabbit better run too!

      Stick out tongue hahahaha I am enjoying!! haha

      I love Twilight!! I read all the books!!

    • #57228
      johselyn
      Participant
      Quote:

      Boo – LOLLLLLLL

      Lyn – Spanglish es muy fun!!! chismoso? Si si muchacho bueno! noooo kill only love Wink you are his amor now Wink

      oooooh helpful is util! amable would be kind, si? Oreo es un muchacho muy util! mashaAllah loll

      LOL I said yo soy acuerdo! LMAO okay, yo estoy de acuerdo! Big Smile lol this is fun! gracias! Big Smile Left Hug

      Oreo – The rabbit ain't going nowhere! After reading Twilight, I like wolves Big Smile

      The spanglish is very free!!Big Smile hIS AMOR? haha yo no soy su amor! IndifferentIf he is the wolf, And you are the rabbit…I want to be the vampireCool, please!! I don´t like the wolves!! Tongue Tied…..Ohh I am remembering to EDWARD CULLENBroken Heart!!

      Fun: divertido, chistosoRight Hug

      Chismoso: gossipy Big Smile

    • #57229
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:

      Huh…

      RUBBISH BOOKS!!

      Big Smile

      I love annoying my twin. Big Smile

      Hypocrite! Angry

      Your twin is going to kick your butt one day. Just you wait! Stick out tongue

    • #57230
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:
      I love Twilight!! I read all the books!!

      you're my kinda girl! I LOVE the twilight books! I'm sooo pissed now because I read all four and I read the 5th one from Edwards point of view and it SOOO GOOOOD! only it stops on like chapter 9 or something cuz SOME IDIOT had to go and put it online before Stephanie was done writing the book! ITS SOOO IRRITATING!

      you know what they should do? Stephanie should finish writing all four books from Edwards point of view and they should make all four movies and then they should make a SERIES, like a show on tv of all the four books including every tiny detail in it! And then once they are done, they should contine it off with a show from where Stephanie left off at in the fourth book. AND she should continue writing it, but if she can't do that, they shoul dDEFINITELY make a show continuing it after where Bella and Edward left off at in the last book. I WOULD BE MUY HAPPY!

      *dreams*

      That would be so much fun…

    • #57231
      johselyn
      Participant

      Yes, eStoy de acuerdo contigo!! I love your idea!!! Edward is so cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeBig Smile and I don´t like Jacob, grrr I don´t like the wolves!! AngrywOWWW I wanna be a vampire!!! Edward please come with me!!!Cool

    • #57232
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:

      Quote:
      Lyn – Spanglish es muy fun!!! chismoso? Si si muchacho bueno! noooo kill only love Wink you are his amor now Wink

      oooooh helpful is util! amable would be kind, si? Oreo es un muchacho muy util! mashaAllah loll

      LOL I said yo soy acuerdo! LMAO okay, yo estoy de acuerdo! Big Smile lol this is fun! gracias! Big Smile Left Hug

      The spanglish is very free!!Big Smile hIS AMOR? haha yo no soy su amor! IndifferentIf he is the wolf, And you are the rabbit…I want to be the vampireCool, please!! I don´t like the wolves!! Tongue Tied…..Ohh I am remembering to EDWARD CULLENBroken Heart!!

      Fun: divertido, chistosoRight Hug

      Chismoso: gossipy Big Smile

      Si, amor Wink HEY How come I don't get to be anything Twilighty? There were no rabbits in twilight! LMAO su means his? lol damn i forgot all my spanish!

      LOL i said chismoso! I seriously thought that meant fun! LMAO there was this one word that would ALWAYS make me laugh for some reason and everytime anyone said it in class everyone would look at me and I'd start cracking up… but i forgot the word! LMAO why am i thinking of egotistical? Tongue Tied i think it was that word in spanish… hmmm

      spanglish es muy chistoso! LOL I was close, i said chismoso instead of chistoso Big Smile

    • #57233
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant
      Quote:

      Yes, eStoy de acuerdo contigo!! I love your idea!!! Edward is so cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeBig Smile and I don´t like Jacob, grrr I don´t like the wolves!! AngrywOWWW I wanna be a vampire!!! Edward please come with me!!!Cool

      Jacob seriously annoyed the heck out of through out most of the book, but he was cute in his own way lolly the wolves got cuter towards the end, I LOVED SETH! THE LIL WOLF! HE WAS SOOOO ADORABLE! It was hilarious because I was going on about how cute he is and how he's sooo funny and adorable to my sister, he did this thing that i always do. LMAO hehe craaazy funny!

      Vampires TOTALLY rock lolll i liked Zafrinaaaa! she was coool Big Smile

    • #57234
      serioComic
      Participant

      how did all this turned into a useless twilight-edward-scissorshand convo??

      no such thing as vampires campires..get a life!

    • #57235
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Oreo you should read it. some of it reminds me of you.

    • #57236
      boo
      Participant
      Quote:

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

      Ha. Trust me to come across this post today when I was browsing the archives…

      I was reading about Pascal's Wager thing today (thanks to an xkcd comic, see below… I LOVE xkcd… *geek mode* Big Smile), and Oreo's post just reminded me of it again. Or maybe that's what he was talking about anyway…? :/ Big Smile

      The alt text says: It's basically Pascal's Wager for the paranoid prankster… lmbo. Big Smile

    • #57237
      kavita_0026
      Participant
      Quote:
      Quote:

      If God does not exist, one loses nothing by believing in him anyway, while if He does exist, one stands to lose everything by not believing.

      Ha. Trust me to come across this post today when I was browsing the archives…

      I was reading about Pascal's Wager thing today (thanks to an xkcd comic, see below… I LOVE xkcd… *geek mode* Big Smile), and Oreo's post just reminded me of it again. Or maybe that's what he was talking about anyway…? :/ Big Smile

      The alt text says: It's basically Pascal's Wager for the paranoid prankster… lmbo. Big Smile

      Oreo : What you said… you said beautifully. It has alot of truth to it.

      Boo: Funny comic hehehe

    • #57238
      scarface
      Participant

      Thinking of u, love and everything else: How I feel, wat I want right now…

      Being one of those grains of sand
      I get blown all around the world
      And what I make of it
      Oh I don't know
      What's the meaning of it
      Oh I don't know

      I've been around so many times
      That the worlds turning in my mind
      What do I think of it
      Oh it's so so

      What more can you be than the things they say you've been??

      Say you love me all around the world
      Stay and hug me all around the world
      Be yours a boy or be mine a girl
      Just say you love me
      Just say you love me

      I never ever realised
      It's so easy to make you cry
      But did I break a bit
      Oh I hope no
      Have you forgot about it
      Oh I hope so

      But you never ever wonder why
      In every single pair of eyes
      There is a hunger in it
      Or it's soul dies

      What more can you be than the things they say you've been

      Say you love me all around the world
      Stay and hug me all around the world
      Be yours a boy or be mine a girl

      Say you love me all around the world
      Stay and hug me all around the world
      Be yours a boy or be mine a
      girl
      Just say you love me

      Come on now darling, say you love me
      Oh yeah, please please say you love me
      Come on say you love me

    • #57239
      scarface
      Participant

      I've learned that things change.. people change… and it doesn't mean you forget the past or try to cover it up… It simply means that you move on and treasure the memories… Letting go doesn't mean giving up… it means accepting that some things weren't meant to be. 🙂

      source: FB friends status

    • #57240
      scarface
      Participant

      Shantaram-gregory david Roberts

      I loved these extracts from his book… I simply adore this book …one of the best reads…ever

      Sometimes we cry with everything except tears, in the end that’s all there is.

      Love and its duty, sorrow and its truth. In the end, its all we have, to hold on tight until the dawn.

      Love cannot be tested, honesty can be tested and loyalty, but there is no test for love. Love goes on forever once it begins,

      Even if we come to hate the one we love. Love goes on forever because love is born in the part of us that does not die.

      There is no right or wrong way of living this wondrous journey, but if we can live the best possible way we can, enjoying everything

      Around us, being in THIS moment, constantly growing and learning, appreciating and loving, we would be richer for it.

    • #57241
      kavita_0026
      Participant

      Lovely

    • #57242
      kavita_0026
      Participant
      Quote:

      I've learned that things change.. people change… and it doesn't mean you forget the past or try to cover it up… It simply means that you move on and treasure the memories… Letting go doesn't mean giving up… it means accepting that some things weren't meant to be. 🙂

      source: FB friends status

      Interesting. Deep.

    • #57243
      scarface
      Participant

      it is thought provoking..at least for me it is.. I love the facebook status updates this guy adds..

      one day I remember scurrying around to write down wat he said to put up on my wall …lol

      some silly, some romantic, some bizarre, some craze…

      anyways.. my thoughts.. are eerily scatter(ish) and on the nostalgic side Sad

    • #57244
      scarface
      Participant
      God's Letter to a Woman

      (This is a must read!!!!)






















      When I created the heavens and the earth, I spoke them into being.

      When I created man, I formed him and breathed life into his nostrils.

      But you, woman, I fashioned after I breathed the breath of life into man, because your nostrils are too delicate.







      I allowed a deep sleep to come over him 

      so I could patiently and perfectly fashion you. 

      Man was put to sleep so that he could not interfere with the creativity. 

      From one bone, I fashioned you. 

      I chose the bone that protects man's life. 

      I chose the rib, which protects his heart and lungs and supports him, 

      as you are meant to do.

       







      Around this one bone, I shaped you....... I modeled you.

      I created you perfectly and beautifully. 

      Your characteristics a
    • #57245
      scarface
      Participant

      1 .If time doesn't wait for you, don't worry! Just remove the damn battery from the clock and Enjoy life!
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      2 . Expecting the world to treat u fairly coz u r a good person is like expecting the lion not to attack u coz u r a vegetarian . Think about it .
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      3 . Beauty isn't measured by outer appearance and what clothes we wear,but what we are inside. So, try going out naked tomorrow and see the Admiration!

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      4 . Don't walk as if you rule the world, walk as if you don't care who rules the world!
      That's called Attitude . Keep on rocking!

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      5 . Every lady hopes that her daughter will marry a better man than she did and is convinced that her son will never find a wife as good as his father did!!!

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      6 . He was a good man . He never smoked, drank had no affair . When he died,the insurance company refused the claim . They said, he who never lived, cannot die!

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      7 . A man threw his wife in a pond of Crocodiles . He's now being harassed by the Animal Rights Activists for being cruel to the Crocodiles!

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      8 . So many options for suicide:
      Poison, sleeping pills, hanging, jumping from a building, lying on train tracks, but we chose Marriage, slow but sure!
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    • #57246
      scarface
      Participant

      IF TOMORROW STARTS WITHOUT ME

      A few weeks ago a woman was killed in an auto
      Accident. She was very well liked, so the office shut
      Down for her funeral and it was on the news and so on.
      On the day the workers came back to work, they found
      This poem in their e-mail that the deceased woman had
      Sent on Friday before she left for home.

      If tomorrow starts without me,
      And I'm not there to see,
      If the sun should rise and find your eyes
      All filled with tears for me;

      I wish so much you wouldn't cry
      The way you did today,
      While thinking of the many things,
      We didn't get to say.

      I know how much you love me,
      As much as I love you,
      And each time that you think of me,
      I know you'll miss me too;

      But when tomorrow starts without me,
      Please try to understand,
      That an angel came and called my name,
      And took me by the hand,

      And said my place was ready,
      In heaven far above,
      And that I'd have to leave behind
      All those I dearly love.

      But as I turned to walk away,
      A tear fell from my eye,
      For all my life, I'd always thought,
      I didn't want to die.

      I had so much to live for,
      So much left yet to do,
      It seemed almost impossible,
      That I was leaving you.
      I thought of all the yesterdays,
      The good ones and the bad,
      I thought of all that we shared,
      And all the fun we had.

      If I could relive yesterday,
      Just even for a while,
      I'd say good-bye and kiss you
      And maybe see you smile.

      But then I fully realized,
      That this could never be,
      For emptiness and memories,
      Would take the place of me.

      And when I thought of worldly things,
      I might miss some tomorrow,
      I thought of you, and when I did,
      My heart was filled with sorrow.

      But when I walked through heaven's gates,
      I felt so much at home.
      When God looked down and smiled at me,
      >From His great golden throne,

      He said, “This is eternity,
      And all I've promised you.”
      Today your life on earth is past,
      But here life starts anew.

      I promise no tomorrow,
      But today will always last,
      And since each day is the same way,
      There's no longing for the past.

      So when tomorrow starts without me,
      Don't think we're far apart,
      For every time you think of me,
      I'm right here, in your heart “

    • #57247
      scarface
      Participant

      NEED WASHING??

      A little girl had been shopping with her Mom in Target. She must have
      been 6 years old, this beautiful red haired, freckle faced image of
      innocence. It was pouring outside. The kind of rain that gushes over the
      top of rain gutters, so much in a hurry to hit the earth it has no time
      to flow down the spout. We all stood there under the awning and just
      inside the door of the Target.

      We waited, some patiently, others irritated because nature messed up
      their hurried day. I am always mesmerized by rainfall. I got lost in
      the sound and sight of the heavens washing away the dirt and dust of the
      world. Memories of running, splashing so carefree as a child came
      pouring in as a welcome reprieve from the worries of my day.

      The little voice was so sweet as it broke the hypnotic trance we were
      all caught in 'Mom let's run through the rain,' she said.

      'What?' Mom asked.

      'Lets run through the rain!' She repeated

      'No, honey. We'll wait until it slows down a bit,' Mom replied.

      This young child waited about another minute and repeated: 'Mom, let's
      run through the rain,'

      'We'll get soaked if we do,' Mom said.

      'No, we won't, Mom.. That's not what you said this morning,' the young
      girl said as she tugged at her Mom's arm.

      This morning? When did I say we could run through the rain and not get
      wet?

      'Don't you remember? When you were talking to Daddy about his cancer,
      you said, 'If God can get us through this, he can get us through
      anything!'

      The entire crowd stopped dead silent. I swear you couldn't hear
      anything but the rain. We all stood silently. No one came or left in
      the next few minutes.

      Mom paused and thought for a moment about what she would say. Now some
      would laugh it off and scold her for being silly. Some might even
      ignore what was said. But this was a moment of affirmation in a young
      child's life. A time when innocent trust can be nurtured so that it
      will bloom into faith.

      'Honey, you are absolutely right. Let's run through the rain. If GOD
      let's us get wet, well maybe we just needed washing,' Mom said.

      Then off they ran. We all stood watching, smiling and laughing as they
      darted past the cars and yes, through the puddles. They held their
      shopping bags over their heads just in case. They got soaked. But they
      were followed by a few who screamed and laughed like children all the
      way to their cars.

      And yes, I did. I ran. I got wet. I needed washing.

      Circumstances or people can take away your material possessions, they
      can take away your money, and they can take away your health. But no
      one can ever take away your precious memories…..So, don't forget to
      make time and take the opportunities to make memories everyday.

      To everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under
      heaven.

      I HOPE YOU STILL TAKE THE TIME TO RUN THROUGH THE RAIN.

      They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to
      appreciate them, a day to love them, but then an entire life to forget
      them.

      Take the time to live!!!

      don't forget to run in the rain!

    • #57248
      scarface
      Participant

      When u really want something

      , Sometimes u have to swim a little ….Deeper….
      You can't give up just because things don't come easy….
      You have to overcome the obstacles and face your fears….
      But in the end, it's all worth while!!!!
      Life is full of ups and downs,
      But if u believe in urself….
      U will always come through with flying colors…..
      Value Friendship, Love and Faith…
      Never underestimate urself.

    • #57249
      scarface
      Participant

      One day a farmer's donkey fell down into a well.
      The animal cried piteously for hours as the farmer tried to figure out what to do.
      Finally, he decided the animal was old, and the well needed to be covered up anyway; it just wasn't worth it to retrieve the donkey.


      He invited all his neighbors to come over and help him.
      They all grabbed a shovel and began to shovel dirt into the well.
      At first, the donkey realized what was happening and cried horribly.
      Then, to everyone's amazement he quieted down.

      A few shovel loads later, the farmer finally looked down the well.
      He was astonished at what he saw.
      With each shovel of dirt that hit his back, the donkey was doing something amazing.
      He would shake it off and take a step up.


      As the farmer's neighbors continued to shovel dirt on top of the animal, he would shake it off and take a step up.
      Pretty soon, everyone was amazed as the donkey stepped up over the edge of the well and happily trotted off!

      MORAL

      Life is going to shovel dirt on you, all kinds of dirt.
      The trick to getting out of the well is to shake it off and take a step up.
      Each of our troubles is a steppingstone.
      We can get out of the deepest wells just by not stopping, never giving up!
      Shake it off and take a step up.



      Remember the five simple rules to be happy:

      1. Free your heart from hatred – Forgive.

      2. Free your mind from worries – Most never happens.

      3. Live simply and appreciate what you have.

      4. Give more.

      5. Expect less from people but more from God.

    • #57250
      scarface
      Participant

      its 93 days…. 90…. 3 whole days and nightssss….. I am lying here in total darkness, listening to an insect *think its a cricket* watching ths space on the ceiling… Am thinking…which is rare for me these days coz i busy myself with everything i could possibly find so that my mind doesnt have to deal with u going away… Am thinking… I dnt really care much for marriage anymore, it used to be a hidden desire to settle down with a partner who understands me and loves me more…i dnt want kids anymore, even though its been my outspoken wish to have at least a soccer team of em’ running around and keeping me busy, i dnt care for my job much, even though its the only thng keeping me from going insane right now, i dont care for love, even though its in my dna ..a part of who i am…l o v e…. Its wat i have lived for…i dnt care for much right now, nothing in fact… I dnt care for life, my life at this time, whats the use of me bothering when u are not here with me? I wish i could have repeat heart breaks and all the awful experiences possible than to have to go through this… I cant write much, everytime i think of putting my feelings down into words, i end upstaring at a blank page/screen for hours…i cant pray…much apart from asking for the safety of my loved ones…whats the use, god ignored my most sincere, heartfelt prayer wer u are concerned… U just left… I dont undrrstand anythng anymore… I dnt know what to say or how to be or even feel..the minute i let my gaurd down, i can feel myself on the verge of an explosion..hw do i do this ??? I need you?? Just u. Everything is an illusion….. Am sooooo tired… I find myself reaching out for the phone to call u coz dats wat i do …then it hits me, u wont answer my calls anymore.. U left? Why? I cant do this anymore… The fight is over.. I feel defeated.. I love u… I love u more than i love me,or anythng/one else…i begged u not to gooo…..i dnt understand anythng anymore…. I need u now..am so confused and hurt…i love u…..i dont knw how i have gone through 93 days without u….its eating me up…ur my only thought when i allow myself to think…….. I love u 🙁

    • #57251
      boo
      Participant

      @**scarface** wrote:

      its 93 days…. 90…. 3 whole days and nightssss….. I am lying here in total darkness, listening to an insect *think its a cricket* watching ths space on the ceiling… Am thinking…which is rare for me these days coz i busy myself with everything i could possibly find so that my mind doesnt have to deal with u going away… Am thinking… I dnt really care much for marriage anymore, it used to be a hidden desire to settle down with a partner who understands me and loves me more…i dnt want kids anymore, even though its been my outspoken wish to have at least a soccer team of em’ running around and keeping me busy, i dnt care for my job much, even though its the only thng keeping me from going insane right now, i dont care for love, even though its in my dna ..a part of who i am…l o v e…. Its wat i have lived for…i dnt care for much right now, nothing in fact… I dnt care for life, my life at this time, whats the use of me bothering when u are not here with me? I wish i could have repeat heart breaks and all the awful experiences possible than to have to go through this… I cant write much, everytime i think of putting my feelings down into words, i end upstaring at a blank page/screen for hours…i cant pray…much apart from asking for the safety of my loved ones…whats the use, god ignored my most sincere, heartfelt prayer wer u are concerned… U just left… I dont undrrstand anythng anymore… I dnt know what to say or how to be or even feel..the minute i let my gaurd down, i can feel myself on the verge of an explosion..hw do i do this ??? I need you?? Just u. Everything is an illusion….. Am sooooo tired… I find myself reaching out for the phone to call u coz dats wat i do …then it hits me, u wont answer my calls anymore.. U left? Why? I cant do this anymore… The fight is over.. I feel defeated.. I love u… I love u more than i love me,or anythng/one else…i begged u not to gooo…..i dnt understand anythng anymore…. I need u now..am so confused and hurt…i love u…..i dont knw how i have gone through 93 days without u….its eating me up…ur my only thought when i allow myself to think…….. I love u 🙁

      This one always comforts me Alie. I find the best way to keep someone with us at all times is to keep them in our very existence. The little things. The little actions or thoughts or words that are shared only between you and that person – no matter where they are. Keep their dignity shining in the way you live.

      For you, a couple of quotes. The first one I have found comforting many, many a time. And I will always look back on it for comfort. The second one is a recent discovery, and it struck an immediate chord with me. Especially in thinking about this forum.


      Once again I felt myself frozen by the sense of something irreparable. And I knew that I could not bear the thought of never hearing that laughter any more. For me, it was like a spring of fresh water in the desert.

      “Little man,” I said, “I want to hear you laugh again.”

      But he said to me:

      “Tonight, it will be a year . . . My star, then, can be found right above the place where I came to the Earth, a year ago . . .”

      “Little man,” I said, “tell me that it is only a bad dream–this affair of the snake, and the meeting-place, and the star . . .”

      But he did not answer my plea. He said to me, instead:

      “The thing that is important is the thing that is not seen . . .”

      “Yes, I know . . .”

      “It is just as it is with the flower. If you love a flower that lives on a star, it is sweet to look at the sky at night. All the stars are a-bloom with flowers . . .”

      “Yes, I know . . .”

      “It is just as it is with the water. Because of the pulley, and the rope, what you gave me to drink was like music. You remember–how good it was.”

      “Yes, I know . . .”

      “And at night you will look up at the stars. Where I live everything is so small that I cannot show you where my star is to be found. It is better, like that. My star will just be one of the stars, for you. And so you will love to watch all the stars in the heavens . . . they will all be your friends. And, besides, I am going to make you a present . . .”

      He laughed again.

      “Ah, little prince, dear little prince! I love to hear that laughter!”

      “That is my present. Just that. It will be as it was when we drank the water . . .”

      “What are you trying to say?”

      “All men have the stars,” he answered, “but they are not the same things for different people. For some, who are travelers, the stars are guides. For others they are no more than little lights in the sky. For others, who are scholars, they are problems. For my businessman they were wealth. But all these stars are silent. You–you alone–will have the stars as no one else has them–“

      “What are you trying to say?”

      “In one of the stars I shall be living. In one of them I shall be laughing. And so it will be as if all the stars were laughing, when you look at the sky at night . . . You–only you–will have stars that can laugh!”

      And he laughed again.

      “And when your sorrow is comforted (time soothes all sorrows) you will be content that you have known me. You will always be my friend. You will want to laugh with me. And you will sometimes open your window, so, for that pleasure . . . And your friends will be properly astonished to see you laughing as you look up at the sky! Then you will say to them, ‘Yes, the stars always make me laugh!’ And they will think you are crazy. It will be a very shabby trick that I shall have played on you . . .”

      And he laughed again.

      “It will be as if, in place of the stars, I had given you a great number of little bells that knew how to laugh . . .”

      And he laughed again.
      — The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery. God, it is so painful to just read that… but it is true and so beautiful.

      I pulled a bottle of whisky from my pack and cracked the seal. It was another ritual, another promise to a friend in New Zealand, a girl who’d asked me to have a drink and think of her if I managed to smuggle myself safely into India with my false passport. The little rituals – the smoke and the drink of whisky – were important to me. I was sure that I’d lost those friends, just as I’d lost my family, and every friend I’d ever known, when I’d escaped from prison. I was sure, somehow, that I would never see them again. I was alone in the world, with no hope of return, and my whole life was held in memories, talismans, and pledges of love.
      — can you guess this one 🙂 Shantaram, Gregory David Roberts. The moment I read this, I felt a strange connection to it. I guess that’s when I first knew I was going to love this book. But anyway, yes, I think you will appreciate the quote. 🙂

      *hug*

    • #57252
      scarface
      Participant

      boo**smiles**…scratch that, Grins
      this is like the 2nd time am responding to this post, for some reason, the forum isnt posting my posts…arrghhh

      I read your reply around 4.am on sunday morn..thats because I just couldnt sleep
      I mentioned to you in my first reply

      its strange that u mention a quote in relation to stars, as thats what I had been doing, watching this star, it looked bigger, brighter, and seem to have a twinkle, I kept thinking, well hoping its ….
      for me I just want to SEEE.. i need that, I need some way of knowing she is ok..
      And at night you will look up at the stars. Where I live everything is so small that I cannot show you where my star is to be found. It is better, like that. My star will just be one of the stars, for you. And so you will love to watch all the stars in the heavens . . . they will all be your friends. And, besides, I am going to make you a present . . .”

      breaks my heart…

      Once again I felt myself frozen by the sense of something irreparable. And I knew that I could not bear the thought of never hearing that laughter any more.

      Its a beautiful .. ok before i start dissecting the words to show u how much it means to me to read this..will stop
      and did i say thank u?? coz am not sure why but this helps a lil…

      I read the first sentence and instantly knew it was his words:) 🙂
      the little things… are important.. I need to get a copy for myself and re-read this book, it brings more memories to me.. and yes I sure do appreciate it.. I remember writing a few of his words, quoting him and then saving it for future use:) ..then I thought, dammit if I dont stop now, will end up typing the entire /or almost, book off:)

    • #57253
      scarface
      Participant

      @boo wrote:

      @**scarface** wrote:

      quote]

      This one always comforts me Alie. I find the best way to keep someone with us at all times is to keep them in our very existence. The little things. The little actions or thoughts or words that are shared only between you and that person – no matter where they are. Keep their dignity shining in the way you live.
      *hug*

      am trying hun, not easy when even remembering makes it hard to breathe..I knw what ur saying, but its simply difficult..

      have always kept her dignity in the way I have lived, dont think I will stop, even though I sometimes want to just throw caution to the wind and behave otherwise…
      man this sux big time
      wannaaaa scream

      ***warm hug back ***

    • #57254
      boo
      Participant

      🙂

      Scream, honey. 🙂

    • #57255
      scarface
      Participant

      i cant
      everytime I try to let a lil out, its feels like am about to burst and I cant breathe
      sigh

    • #57256
      RaNi iS ThE BeS
      Participant

      Scarry, *hugs* <3

      You’ll make it through. <3

    • #57257
      SenorJalapeno
      Participant

      The hobbit and her boys! Sigh!

    • #57258
      Bolly_Lover
      Participant

      I want to read this thread because it seems interesting and different from the other threads on this forum. But I am too tired from a long night of work, I cannot seem to focus on the words. Thanks for resurrecting this thread, will be checking it out soon 🙂

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