loverofmusic: zi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii vo barasaat kii raatek a.njaan hasiinaa se mulaakaat kii raatzi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...haay vo reshamii zulfo.n se barasataa paaniiphuul se gaalo.n pe rukane ko tarasataa paanii ( so beautifully written, u cud actually picturise)dil me.n tuufaan uThaate hue dil me.n tuufaan uThaate hue haalaat kii raat zi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...Dar ke bijalii se achaanak vo lipaTanaa usakaaaur phir sharm se balakhaake simaTanaa usakaa kabhii dekhii na sunii aisii hokabhii dekhii na sunii aisii tilismaat ki raatzi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...surkh aa.nchal ko dabaakar jo nicho.Daa usanedil pe jalataa huaa ek tiir saa chho.Daa usane aag paanii me.n lagaate hueaag paanii me.n lagaate hue jazabaat ki raatzi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...mere naGmo.n me.n jo basatI hai vo tasvIr thI vonaujavAnI ke hasI.n Kvaab kI tAbIr thI voaasmano.n se utar aaI thI jo raat kI raatzi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ... The music as wel as the lyrics are so so beautiful.... another of the category is 'Chouduvi ka chaand' chaudavii.n kaa chaa.nd ho, yaa aafataab hojo bhii ho tum khudaa ki qasam, laajavaab hozulfe.n hai.n jaise kaa.Ndho pe baadal jhuke hueaa.Nkhe.n hai.n jaise may ke payaale bhare huemastii hai jisame pyaar kii tum, vo sharaab hochaudavii.n kaa ...cheharaa hai jaise jhiil me khilataa huaa ka.nvalyaa zi.ndagii ke saaj pe chhe.Dii huii gazaljaane bahaar tum kisii shaayar kaa Kvaab hochaudavii.n kaa ...hoTho.n pe khelatii hai.n tabassum kii bijaliyaa.Nsajde tumhaarii raah me.n karatii hai.n kaikashaa.nduniyaa-e-husn-o-ishq kaa tum hii shabaab hochaudavii.n kaa ... That is another song that excels in every way...music, lyrics, singing .....Oh! Too good! When we were is college me and my best friend used to say for fun 'kaash hamare baare mein bhi koi aaise geet gate...' Loverji, these are gems and classics, songs that immortalised Rafisaab, he has gone (as we all will someday) but he certainly has leave an indelible mark for fans throughout the world. Others like Mohd Azeez, Vipin Sachdeva, Debashish Das Gupta, Bankin Pathak, Shabbir Kumar, and (likable) Sonu Nigam tried their best............but then the Ustad is most notable.......Rafi will always be Rafi, we will always crave for his recordings. Have these listed in the "Memories of Mohd Rafi" thread, with audio and translations for the enjoyment of all fans. .
zi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii vo barasaat kii raatek a.njaan hasiinaa se mulaakaat kii raatzi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...haay vo reshamii zulfo.n se barasataa paaniiphuul se gaalo.n pe rukane ko tarasataa paanii ( so beautifully written, u cud actually picturise)dil me.n tuufaan uThaate hue dil me.n tuufaan uThaate hue haalaat kii raat zi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...Dar ke bijalii se achaanak vo lipaTanaa usakaaaur phir sharm se balakhaake simaTanaa usakaa kabhii dekhii na sunii aisii hokabhii dekhii na sunii aisii tilismaat ki raatzi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...surkh aa.nchal ko dabaakar jo nicho.Daa usanedil pe jalataa huaa ek tiir saa chho.Daa usane aag paanii me.n lagaate hueaag paanii me.n lagaate hue jazabaat ki raatzi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...mere naGmo.n me.n jo basatI hai vo tasvIr thI vonaujavAnI ke hasI.n Kvaab kI tAbIr thI voaasmano.n se utar aaI thI jo raat kI raatzi.ndagii bhar nahii.n bhuulegii ...
The music as wel as the lyrics are so so beautiful.... another of the category is 'Chouduvi ka chaand'
chaudavii.n kaa chaa.nd ho, yaa aafataab hojo bhii ho tum khudaa ki qasam, laajavaab hozulfe.n hai.n jaise kaa.Ndho pe baadal jhuke hueaa.Nkhe.n hai.n jaise may ke payaale bhare huemastii hai jisame pyaar kii tum, vo sharaab hochaudavii.n kaa ...cheharaa hai jaise jhiil me khilataa huaa ka.nvalyaa zi.ndagii ke saaj pe chhe.Dii huii gazaljaane bahaar tum kisii shaayar kaa Kvaab hochaudavii.n kaa ...hoTho.n pe khelatii hai.n tabassum kii bijaliyaa.Nsajde tumhaarii raah me.n karatii hai.n kaikashaa.nduniyaa-e-husn-o-ishq kaa tum hii shabaab hochaudavii.n kaa ...
That is another song that excels in every way...music, lyrics, singing .....Oh! Too good! When we were is college me and my best friend used to say for fun 'kaash hamare baare mein bhi koi aaise geet gate...'
Loverji, these are gems and classics, songs that immortalised Rafisaab, he has gone (as we all will someday) but he certainly has leave an indelible mark for fans throughout the world.
Others like Mohd Azeez, Vipin Sachdeva, Debashish Das Gupta, Bankin Pathak, Shabbir Kumar, and (likable) Sonu Nigam tried their best............but then the Ustad is most notable.......Rafi will always be Rafi, we will always crave for his recordings.
Have these listed in the "Memories of Mohd Rafi" thread, with audio and translations for the enjoyment of all fans.
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Here are some hits by Lataji...
Film : Sharmeelee
meghaa chhaae aadhii raat, bairan ban gaI ni.ndiyaa bataa de mai.n kyaa karuu.N meghaa chhaae aadhii raat, bairan ban gaI ni.ndiyaa (sab ke aa.ngan diyaa jale re, more aa.ngan jiyaa havaa laage shuul jaisii, taanaa maare chunariyaa ) - 2kaise kahuu.N mai.n man kii baat, bairan ban gayI.n ni.ndiyaa bataa de mai.n kyaa karuu.N meghaa chhaae aadhii raat, bairan ban gaI ni.ndiyaa (TuuT gaye re sapane saare, chhuuT gayI re aashaa nain bahe re ga.ngaa more, phir bhI man hai pyaasaa ) - 2aaii hai aa.Nsuu kii baaraat, bairan ban gayI ni.ndiyaa bataa de mai.n kyaa karuu.N meghaa chhaae aadhii raat, bairan ban gaI ni.ndiyaa
(with Rafi saab in Professor)
lataa: aavaaz deke hame.n tum bulaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataaoabhii to merii zi.ndagii hai pareshaa.nkahii.n mar ke ho khaak bhii na pareshaa.ndiye kii tarah se na hamako jalaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataaorafii: mai.n saa.nso.n ke har taar me.n chhup rahaa huu.Nmai.n dha.Dakan ke har raag me.n bas rahaa huu.Nzaraa dil kii jaanib nigaahe.n jhukaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataaolataa: naa ho.nge agar ham to rote rahogesadaa dil kaa daaman bhigote rahogejo tum par miTaa ho use naa miTaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataaorafii: aavaaz deke hame.n tum bulaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataao
(In film champakali)
chhup gayaa koii re, duur se pukaar kedard anokhe haay, de gayaa pyaar kechhup gayaa ...aaj hai.n suunii suunii, dil kii ye galiyaa.Nban gaI.n kaa.NTe merii, khushiyo.n kii kaliyaa.Npyaar bhii khoyaa maine, sab kuchh haar kedard anokhe haay, de gayaa pyaar kechhup gayaa ...a.Nkhiyo.n se nii.nd gaI, manavaa se chain rechhup chhup roe mere, khoe khoe nain rehaay yahii to mere, din the si.ngaar kedard anokhe haay, de gayaa pyaar kechhup gayaa ...
(in film Anupama)
dhiire dhiire machal ai dil-e-beqaraarkoii aataa haiyuu.N ta.Dapake na ta.Dapaa mujhe baalamaakoii aataa haidhiire dhiire ...usake daaman kii Kushabuu havaao.n me.n haiusake kadamo.n kii aahaT fazaao.n me.n haimujhako karane de, karane de solah shri.ngaarkoii aataa haidhiire dhiire machal...ruuThakar pahale jii bhar sataauu.Ngii mai.njab manaae.nge vo, maan jaauu.Ngii hai.nmujhako karane de, karane de solah shringaarkoii aataa haidhiire dhiire machal...mujhako chhune lagi.n usakii parchhaaiyaa.Ndilake nazdiik bajatii hai.n shahanaaiyaa.Nmere sapano.n ke aa.Ngan me.n gaataa hai pyaarkoii aataa haidhiire dhiire machal...
ASHA BHONSLE
Chain se humko kahee aapne jeene na diya....
Aao huzoor tumko sitaaro mein le chaloo. Dil jhoom jaaye aaise bahaaro mein le chaloo...
Zara haule haule challo more saajnaa hum bhi peeche hai tumhaare....
Deewana hua baadal, saawan ki ghata chaayee....(with Rafi)
Saath ho tum aur raat jawa. Neend kise ab chain kaha....
Saara pyaar tumhaara meine baandh liya hai aanchal mein (with kishorda)...
*Lack of time....will continue later*
lataa: aavaaz deke hame.n tum bulaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataaoabhii to merii zi.ndagii hai pareshaa.nkahii.n mar ke ho khaak bhii na pareshaa.ndiye kii tarah se na hamako jalaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataaorafii: mai.n saa.nso.n ke har taar me.n chhup rahaa huu.Nmai.n dha.Dakan ke har raag me.n bas rahaa huu.Nzaraa dil kii jaanib nigaahe.n jhukaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataaolataa: naa ho.nge agar ham to rote rahogesadaa dil kaa daaman bhigote rahogejo tum par miTaa ho use naa miTaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataaorafii:aavaaz deke hame.n tum bulaaomohabbat me.n itanaa naa hamako sataao
http://66.45.233.12/Aawaz_De_Ke_PROFESSOR.mp3
Such a beautiful song, loverji could you translate this into english:
O Ho Ho, O Ho Ho, Aa Haa Haa
Ye Dekhake Dil Jhuumaa, Lii Pyaar Ne A.Nga.DaaiDiivaanaa Huaa BaadalSaavan Kii Ghataa ChhaaiYe Dekhake Dil Jhuumaa, Lii Pyaar Ne A.Nga.DaaiDiivaanaa Huaa Baadal
Aisii To Merii Taqadiir Na ThiiTumasaa Jo Koii Mahabuub Mile(Dil Aaj Khushii Se Paagal Hai) \- 2(Ai Jaanevafaa Tum Khuub Mile) \- 2Dil Kyuu.N Naa Bane Paagal, Kyaa Tumane Adaa PaaiYe Dekhake Dil Jhuumaa, Lii Pyaar Ne A.Nga.DaaiDiivaanaa Huaa Baadal
Asha: Jab Tumase Nazar Takaraai SanamJazabaat Kaa Ek Tuufaan Uthaa(Tinake Kii Tarah Mai.N Bah Nikalii) \- 2(Sailaad Mere Roke Na Rukaa) \- 2Jiivan Me.N Machii HalachalAur Bajane Lagii ShahanaaiYe Dekhake Dil Jhuumaa, Lii Pyaar Ne A.Nga.Daai
Rafii: Diivaanaa Huaa Baadal
Hai Aaj Naye Aramaano.N Se, Aabaad Merii Dil Kii Nagarii(Baraso.N Se Fizaa.N Kaa Mausam Thaa) \- 2(Viiraan Ba.Dii Duniyaa Thii Merii) \- 2Haatho.N Me.N Teraa Aa.Nchal, Aayaa Jo Bahaar AaiYe Dekhake Dil Jhuumaa, Lii Pyaar Ne A.Nga.Daai
Asha: Diivaanaa Huaa Baadal, Saavan Ki Ghataa ChhaaiYe Dekhake Dil Jhuumaa, Lii Pyaar Ne A.Nga.Daai
Rafii: Diivaanaa Huaa Baadal, Saavan Kii Ghataa ChhaaiYe Dekhake Dil Jhuumaa, Lii Pyaar Ne A.Nga.Daai,Diivaanaa Huaa Baadal
Again lovely song:
Translation always makes songs loose their beauty, Abdoolji....But i will try...not now, later.
Im so glad i cud finally find someone on this forum who likes my kind of songs. The rest of the children here are more found of the 'Dhoom' kind of stuff. They wud kill me if i try to discuss the old melodies with them.
Aha, I could not agree with you more as we stayed with the concept and ignored the literal meanings, for example
chaahe dvaar hriday ke band karo No matter if you close the doors to your heart ... worked well enough but someone later mentioned that he could follow most of the hindi but there were holes in his knowledge of the language which the translated text filled. Thus the question begs should we stay in step with the hindi text - try to translate in chunks so that literal meanings too become apparent. I guess I am a bit boring.
Personally I like the way that the text kept flowing and understandable rather than precise and trying to figure out....what really the lyricist wanted to say. To be precise it will be less understandable; to be flowing and continuous will be understandable but not not precise.Hence like you said, translations take away the beauty.........totally agreed.
Sometimes we have to give in to people like "myself" that does not understand the language, and translation plays a great part in giving me that insight.
Loverji, in order to make millions understand some of the beauty of the romantical language hindi/urdu we must continue to keep the translation flowing and continous rather the precise to the text it is too bad, but it is the only way to keep the language alive.
I definately take your point that the trans take away the beauty of the songs.
Give the kids time, and you will not able to feed them enough old music, was at that stage once. No one could have mention to me K L Saigal, KC Dey, Pankaj Mallik, Shamshad Begum, Noor Jehan, Geeta Roy/Dutt, Hemant Kumar, so much more I cannot even remember.
It is a joy to discuss old song with someone as knowledgeable as you loverji.
I can never translate anything, too bad I have to depend on friends for all my translations; despite at times I feel like editing a few words.
There is a couple of Classics by Manna Day and others, maybe my next post, we will go further down memory lane with some classics like
(1) Albeli naar pritham dwaare
(2) Laga Chuniri ne daag
(3) Cham Cham Baje re Payal
(4) Kaun aaya meri man ki dwar..paayal ki
(5) Phool Ghendava na maro
(6) Poocho na kaise man
(7) Ek Chaturnaar karke singhaar
(8) Tere Aakhon ka Siva
Ah! 'Poocho na kaise' is a masterpiece! It is in my favourite raga - 'aahir bhairav'. There is a not-so-famous number in the same raga by yesudas....i'v forgotten the song now....it is there in the collection which i told u i bought recently. But anyway, 'poocho na' is incomparable....
puuchho naa kaise maine rain bitaaIik pal jaise, ik yug biitA - 2yug biite mohe nii.nd naa aayiipuuchho naa kaise ...(naa kahii.n cha.Ndaa, naa kahii.n taarejyot ke pyaase mere, nain bichaare ) - 2bhor bhii aas kii kiran naa laayIpuuchho naa kaise ...ik jale diipak ik man meraa, merA, man, merA, merA ...ik jale diipak ik man meraaphir bhI naa jaaye mere ghar kaa a.ndheraata.Dapat tarasat umar ga.nvaayiipuuchho naa kaise ...
loverofmusic:Ah! 'Poocho na kaise' is a masterpiece! It is in my favourite raga - 'aahir bhairav'. There is a not-so-famous number in the same raga by yesudas....i'v forgotten the song now....it is there in the collection which i told u i bought recently. But anyway, 'poocho na' is incomparable.... puuchho naa kaise maine rain bitaaIik pal jaise, ik yug biitA - 2yug biite mohe nii.nd naa aayiipuuchho naa kaise ...(naa kahii.n cha.Ndaa, naa kahii.n taarejyot ke pyaase mere, nain bichaare ) - 2bhor bhii aas kii kiran naa laayIpuuchho naa kaise ...ik jale diipak ik man meraa, merA, man, merA, merA ...ik jale diipak ik man meraaphir bhI naa jaaye mere ghar kaa a.ndheraata.Dapat tarasat umar ga.nvaayiipuuchho naa kaise ...
LATA MANGESHKAR ACCOMPANIES US DOWN MEMORY LANE: VOLUME 1(1) AY MERE DILAY NADAAN:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Ae%20Mere%20Dil%20e%20Nadan.mp3(2) AAJA RE PARDESIhttp://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Aaja%20Re%20Pardesi.mp3(3) AY DIL TUJHAY KASAM HAI:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Ae%20Dil...he%20Qasam%20Hai.mp3(4) BAHARO MERE JEEWAN:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Baharon%20Mera%20Jeewan.mp3(5) BICHRE HOWAY PARDESI:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Bichre%20Hue%20Pardesi.mp3(6) CHALE JANA NAHEE:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Chaley%2...Nahin%20Nain.mp3.mp3(7) DIL APNA OUR PREET PARAYE:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Dil%20Apna%20Aur%20Preet.mp3(8) EHSAAN TERA HOGA MUJH PAR:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Ehsan%20Tera%20Hoga.mp3(9) EK BEWAFA SAY PYAR KIYA:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Ek%20Bewafa%20Se%20Pyar.mp3(10) DUNIYA NAY TERI DUNIYA WALO:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Duniya%20Na%20Teri%20Duniya.mp3(11) HAWA MEIN URTHA JAYE:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Hawa%20Main%20Utar%20Jaye.mp3(12) BARE AARMAAON SAY RAKHA:http://www.channeldosti.com/oldies/Lata%20Hits/Bade%20Armanoon%20Se.mp3LOOK OUT FOR VOLUME 2
Loverji as much as I enjoyed these, I cannot help but share and hope that some memories are stirred: